What Next?

[Hopecontinues]

Hi,

Just tested this morning 9dp5dt and it was another BFN. I've never had a BFP and had previously thought it was due to egg quality and sub septate uterus, but that's been fixed and I've now tried a donor egg and that didn't work either. I have 2 embryos left, one of mine, which is not great and a donor embryo. No idea of the quality, but most of her embryos arrested before reaching blastocyst. You think a 22 Yr old would produce a lot of good quality eggs, so it's very disappointing.

Anyway, I'm now thinking what is wrong with me that is stopping me getting a BFP? I won't get any advice from the clinic in North Cyprus, so I'm wondering if anyone can recommend what they did to make a difference or do I just have to put the last embryos in and if it doesn't work go again?

I'm feeling pretty low, alone and wonder whether it will ever work, but have to keep up appearances, as I'm covering for my boss next week and they don't know I'm doing IVF. I don't know how people keep going. It's traumatic and emotionally draining.

I haven't told many friends as I find people just don't understand, they don't keep it to themselves and they say all the wrong things. That means I have to sit there whilst people moan about their kids. I have to smile and say all the right things as people show me their babies and I have to keep commitments for lunches, a birthday dinner last night and other things this week, but inside I'm just empty. It feels very selfish to moan about this, when Ukraine are going through such a horrific attack. It certainly puts things into perspective.

😔

[Boo718]

Hi I’m so sorry to hear this. It’s not wrong to feel how your feeling even with everything going on in Ukraine. I’m not sure what medications you are on but my doctor added in clexane, aspirin, prednisolone (steroid) and increased my progesterone. We also had vitamins with probiotics and tested the embryos for chromosome abnormalities. We are just part way through our hopefully 4th transfer so don’t know if it’s going to work yet but she has changed the protocol and added in extras every time. I hope your ok. Stay strong. Xxx

[Hopecontinues in reply to Boo718]

Hey, thanks for replying. I really hope your 4th transfer works. That was my 4th transfer and 4th egg collection. I had prednisolone, clexane, vitamins, melatonin and probiotics for my last transfer and whenever they measure my progesterone it is always high.

Never had Emma Alice etc tests. There's mixed reviews online, but people on here seem to get results.

[Boo718 in reply to Hopecontinues]

I’ve not had the Emma Alice tests either. That might be the next thing I’d this doesn’t work 🤦‍♀️ Did u get the embryos tested? We had 4 embryos a few years back and the 3 good quality ones were all abnormal 🤦‍♀️ Xxx hopefully the doctor can suggest a next step for u xxx

[Hopecontinues in reply to Boo718]

I didn't know what had made it to day 5 until I saw the doctor pre transfer. I was given 5 minutes to decide what to do as the doctor wanted to go for lunch. Certainly at this point testing was out of the question and then they froze the remaining 2, so no I didn't have them tested. I think I'm going to have to transfer the remaining 2 and then I'll change clinic. Probably to the UK. Will need to find a clinic here.

[Boo718 in reply to Hopecontinues]

Aww that’s such a shame they barely gave you any time to make any decisions and all in a rush so he can go for lunch 🤦‍♀️ I know a number of people that have had success at home (uk) we chose Spain as my bmi was too high so Scotland was a no go xxx

[Hopecontinues in reply to Boo718]

I thought about Spain. Would you recommend your clinic?

[IVFat40]

First of all I'm so sorry for what you're going through, this journey can be utterly devastating and heartbreaking, and so often feels so lonely.

It sounds like you have a good plan in place, of transferring the remaining two embryos, and then if necessary (hopefully not) doing another round in the UK. It also sounds like you've already tried many of the things that can help with implantation failure, like steroids/prednisolone. I wondered (and sorry if you've already done this as well) whether you'd done the ERA test to check you have the right implantation window? This might be an obvious one but it could also be worth getting your vitamin D levels checked, just to be sure (you can get them done easily online). The other thing I thought of, which I've not had experience of myself but others on this forum have spoken about, is looking in to the sperm side of things with a sperm dna fragmentation test? Of course all of this might be unnecessary and the next transfer could easily be the one (I had success with my 8th embryo transferred). Wishing you so much luck hun.

[Hopecontinues in reply to IVFat40]

8th? How did you keep your resolve? Congratulations, by the way.

I have had vit d checked and its was OK.

I haven't had ERA done. Do you know anywhere I can do that in London?

[IVFat40 in reply to Hopecontinues]

With the ERA I'm sorry hun I don't, I think it's pretty common for clinics to offer it, but quite often they do want you to be an existing patient of theirs. I had it done in Cambridge.

And thank you so much.

[HollyCG]

Hey, so sorry to hear you are going through this. I suffered from implantation failure & was told it was due to my low AMH - I was only 28 when I started the process and despite having top grade blasts they just failed to implant - I drove myself insane and ended up having all the immune testing done @ the fertility academy in london & added intralipids/IVIG, steroids and clexane to my protocol. Thankfully it worked on my next round 🤞🏼