I don't even know what title to add to my post... I been a mess after my frozen transfer. Did not feel well at all, I was in pain most of the time. As you can see on my attached picture our beautiful embryo implanted but I wasn't happy not even for 2 seconds because of the failures that we had on our previous 2 transfers. I saw positive tests on all of my transfers so this means almost nothing to me. My biggest fear unfortunately became a reality now ... I am having my 3rd in a row biochemical pregnancy. My tests are now lighter and the digital that was showing on day 7 past transfer "pregnant 1-2" not is showing "not pregnant". Tomorrow is my OTD but I know already the answer, I don't need to wait until tomorrow. I am just having a deja vu right now and a nightmare at the same time. Not even many tears left in my eyes also... We did everything we could. We had PGS tested done, ERA test done, I am on progesteron injections, blood thinner, immunosuppressants, tyroxine all that we could imagine and the outcome is the same... just another chemical. I don't understand what else we can improve?!? I have no answers it is actually the opposite more and more questions. I will send my blood test tomorrow, as I am in isolation, I ordered from Medicheck, do you have an idea if I am sending it tomorrow which is Thursday when my results will be back? I just want to stop all my medication as soon as possible and wait for the new year to come with new challenges... I am absolutely devastated, there are no words good enough to describe all that I fell right now... just tears and tears
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it looks positive. why are u sad? just wait for the blood test to confirm
My 9DP5dt are lighter than day 8 and digital one says "not pregnant" . I had the same situation twice in the past so I know where I am heading. I will wait for blood test results to confirm my biggest fear...
Good lord Ranchu this is not what i was hoping to see. Did you take the 3 tests on day 9 at the same time? 💔
Yes, all on the same time with same morning urine...
I so hope your urine was diluted and that it is still early days. Anything that explains it. On the thyroid group i think ive heard medicheck to take a day or 5 for the results to show ? I continue to pray for you lovely ❤️☘️
Hope it will not take that long for my results to be back. Anyway it will be weekend so I am kind of expecting to receive them on Monday. Waiting and again waiting, we are the best at that!
I’m so sorry to read this.... I have no advice just sending love xx
Oh no, Im so sorry Ranchu…...! Its really sounds like you have done everything and you're having the worst luck ever.....understatement if ever there was one but I don't want to swear!! Im thinking of you and sending hugs.xxx
Oh yeah, never considered myself a lucky person in general and now a have another proof. The history is just repeating ...
I know its not much help but I do think there is a certain amount of luck involved in this, its a bit of a lottery. You have corrected so many things so hopefully its just a matter of time if you can keep pushing on which I know is easier said than done. Lots of love.xxx
It is definitely a lottery and I didn't chose the lucky numbers this time, maybe next time who knows!?! Nothing can be changed right now but I am pleased that I haven't transferred 2 embryos.
Take care ❤️🤗
I am so so sorry.. I am sending you hugs and lots of love.. 💕
Thank you I appreciate that! 🤗
Oh lovely, I have no words to ease your pain, I’m so sorry life is being so unbelievably cruel to you. Take some time to process & grieve. When you are ready hop back on the crazy rollercoaster with a new plan & be ready to kick infertility’s ass! Big hugs Xx
Indeed life is cruel with some of us. I am trying now to put myself together and wait for another two months because I am "very good at waiting". We will probably have a follow up to see what can be improved (even I have no idea what else I can improve) and do another transfer as we have 2 more PGS tested embryos and one mosaic on the freezer. Next time we will have 2 embryos transferred... Now the waiting games restarted, what a joy!
Oh honey, I'm so sorry to read this. I've been looking out for your post. I have everything crossed for you and pray that things take a positive turn for you soon. Xx
I’m so sorry 💔 I know that you know all the signs so I won’t say anything falsely hopeful, it’s still worth doing the test tomorrow but I know it isn’t sounding great with the digi going backwards too. But I’ll still have a bit of hope for you that you were more hydrated for this mornings test 🤞🏼
You mentioned immunosuppressants, what were you on? I’ve had countless chemicals and early miscarriages, my final protocol that got me recently to a heartbeat (removed due to ectopic - shockingly devastating) included double progesterone, 20mg clexane, 20mg prednisolone, 2 tablets of hydroxychloroquine daily, and high dose folic acid 5mg. Not totally sure why the folic acid but I think I read that it’s important for the early days progression of the embryo.
Lots of love, stay strong and give yourself the space to be angry and to grieve if this is confirmed as a chemical xx
Oh I am really sorry to hear that you had an ectopic. I had 3 glasses on water before going to sleep 🙄. I am on 1200 mg progesterone pessaries and injections Prolutex 25mg, also on clexane 40mg and immunosuppressant Tacrolimus 4mg, also baby aspirin and folic acid. Lots of drugs. From my point of view all areas kind of been covered. I don't know what else I can improve.
Thank you for your kind wishes ❤️
Do you know... I think that really what happened with our recent embryo... I mean it was a natural conception, I think just it must have been stronger rather than the protocol helping. As I was on the same protocol for a previous ivf transfer that was a chemical. You just have to stay strong and keep going as much as you can xx
Hi lovely. My first reaction was to give you a huge congratulations as a line in itself is good news! However, I can understand your concerns, and especially given your previous experiences. I'm still holding out lots of hope that this will turn out okay as the luck could be there to turn it around (and that's all this journey is - luck), and "every pregnancy is different" (UGH!). Sending lots of love and hugs. You've done everything you can and if it was down to what you (anyone of us) were doing, it wouldn't be this hard, and you are doing absolutely everything. Thinking of you. xxx
A second line is a good sign but not in my case apparently. I didn't enjoy them, 2 lines are creating more anxiety. My husband asked me to not show him my pregnancy test, he wanted to see them only on my OTD.
I am waiting for updates on your 12 weeks scan ❤️🤗 oh lucky you!!!
Thanks. 2 lines is still better than just the control line. Even in this case! No pregnancy line is no chance. Although, understand it's not helping with anxiety. Why can't anything be cut and dry/black and white in TTC?! Really holding out hope that this will all be okay. Best wishes for OTD tomorrow, and if it's positive, hopefully get bloods done with your clinic soon and you get to move forward. Keep us updated. xxx
Hi Ranchu, I am so sorry to read this... it really does seem like you’ve changed so much, this sounds like such bad luck. I have not been in this position myself (rather, I had a series of non-implantations), but just wanted to send you lots of hugs ❤️
I know that sometimes you just know but I'm with your husband, just wait and see.
If this time wasn't meant to be, then you are surely going to get there very soon. You couldn't have done any more. Sending a massive hug to you right now. XX
Early testing creates anxiety but you will never know whether was a chemical or not if you are not testing before the official day. Having a history of chemicals in the past motivated me even more to test early, crazy, right?!? Thank you for 🤗❤️
So sorry lovely. It's so cruel and devastating to be in this position! Sending you lots of love and hope 💗🙏 xxx
So I am very similar to you. So many chemical pregnancies. Always get the light lines but they would never get any darker. I started a new protocol with a miscarriage specialist-- found out I have high nk cells which attack the embryo at implantation stage. Since July I've been on hydroxychloroquine, intralipids, predisolone steroids... Got pregnant naturally and this one is sticking for the first time ever. I keep reading about people being successful with steroids, my own experience is that they really do work. Speaking as someone who has seen weak positives way too many times xx
I was thinking to check my nk cells after my 2nd chemical but I wanted to make sure that I produce chromosomal normal embryos before hand, which now I know that we have. My AMH is good 35.5 at 29 years old. Poor egg quality never been mentioned to me in 4 IVF cycle or better said egg collections. I just wanted to ask did you had a biopsy done for nk cells or a blood test? Have you done them in UK? And if you don't mind roughly how much you had to pay? Thank you xx
So I had blood tests, they're not cheap, something like £2000, but if it comes back that this is the issue, the drugs are pretty cheap from there is. An initial £200 injection, then monthly intralipids (when pregnant) at £350 at a time, but all other drugs are basically just pills about £1 each or similar, probably less. From your amh results and seeing how many eggs you get, and the fact you have pgs normal embryos, honestly, I think it's nk cells. You sound exactly like me. There's NO reason why so many good embryos should be failing to get to the 6/7 week stage. Please do go for the checks. Otherwise you'll be wasting more money on ivf when you can probably get pregnant naturally with the right drugs. Good luck and let me know how you get on! I currently have £1000 worth of ivf drugs in my fridge I'm hoping we never have to use. Two natural pregnancies in 2 months with an amh of 16.5 and no issues on partners side (we're 38) but 3 years of unexplained infertility until we saw our specialist in Epsom, Surrey. X
Ps: if all your embryo transfers produce positives but never last, this is probably not an issue with embryo quality, its an implantation issue I'd say. I don't know what your amh is but mines 16.5 and I never understood why I had so many 'bad eggs' - if you have a decent amh (?) then you can pretty much guarantee its not the embryo quality that is causing the chemicals , but that your body needs something else to help baby stick. I'm only speaking from my own experiences obviously, but you seem to have similar outcomes that I was having. If you haven't had a miscarriage specialist look into nk cells and immunology, please do x
Sending you lots of love and strength ranchu xxx
Thank you is all I need right now ❤️
My goodness, this is so heartbreaking!! Chemicals are horrible and cruel. I had two and nearly lost my mind from grief.
Sounds like you’ve done everything you could in preparation so as awful as it sounds, maybe it is bad luck this time. Please don’t give up. Give yourself time to process this, enjoy the holiday season and try again when you feel ready in the new year. My heart goes out to you, sending you lots of hugs xxxx
Big big hugs to you, such a brave woman at such a crushing time!! Words can't express my sympathy for you. Take time to enjoy the sunshine, grieve, cry, shout and then pick yourself up. Enjoy the little moments of happiness whatever they may be. Be kind to yourself and know it s ok to feel the way you feel. I hope time helps!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Sending you all love 💗 im sorry to hear your having a hard time, ttc is just pure torture! Xx
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