Stage 2 likely?

[J-147]

hi,

I’ve been undergoing blood test for 6 months.

my creatinine levels have been high and the GP said my kidneys weren’t function as they should be for my age. I’m 42 male. Had ultra sound of kidneys and no issues found.

my GFR is 61. From what I can see online it should be in 99’s on average for my age. Wouldn’t class myself as desperately over weight. But my BMI is out of “normal” range.

My serum creatinine levels are 114.0 umol/L

My urine creatinine levels are 12.5mmol/L

My gfr as above is 61.

Is it more likely I’m stage 2 CKD do you think?

Thanks in advance to those of you who take the time to read or reply to my post

[lilliput]

I would have another chat with your doctor. Why did you have the blood tests?

[J-147 in reply to lilliput]

routine bloods just to check general health. And then create nine levels and gfr came back abnormal.

[userotc]

A 15 second Google check would've told you what your GP told you! Plus other key info - see link below. Yes I'd like to know more too eg why tests done?. But, due mainly to lack of confidence in their GPs, many resort to their own research.

If your kidney is the only issue, I'd hazard a guess you're drinking insufficient water but we shouldn't guess with your health. If getting nowhere with GP and uncomfortable with own research, you'll find support on here. Or consider a qualified, naturopathic CKD specialist.

kidney.org/atoz/content/gfr

[J-147 in reply to userotc]

thanks. Yeah that’s where I got my info from. As GP not very informative. Just keeps sending me for the same bloods with the same results.

Tests were done originally. Just as general health check. Everything else triggered in response to that.

[userotc in reply to J-147]

As many will tell you on here, medics are unlikely to inform you that you've got CKD2 or even CKD3 (as my mum discovered many years ago). The likely reason is there's little/nothing they can do at that stage unless, say, BP or blood sugar high. That's because they trade in drugs and have them for BP, diabetes etc. Less so for early CKD.

Fortunately, early CKD can be managed naturally eg with hydration etc. Good luck!

[sam221]

You must do some reading on a glass of wine and 2 tblsp of virgin olive oil. It changes things. Also fasting, low salt, no red meat, vegetarian diets best and if you eat meat eat very small amounts.

[Bananas2007]

Do you have blood or protein in your urine? If your gfr is above 60 and no blood or protein, then clinically, you don't have CKD. Is there something going on with your body? I would say there's a high likelihood but I am not a doctor.

[Train1674]

Do you have any ckd related symptoms?

[RickHow]

Do not automatically label yourself as CKD based only on your egfr level. Most labs just publish a simple test result saying 60 or above is normal. Yours apparently breaks it down and reports it more significantly. To be classified as CKD requires more than just a egfr determinization. ACR levels need to be considered too. An ACR of 30-300 mg/g pr 3-3o mg/mmol is moderate level. Also these measurements need to be taken at least 3 times over a 3 month period.

You seem to have a good doctor. He does repeat blood test to see if your level is nearly constant or is just a onetime abnormality. He even did a scan. I would assume he also did an ACR test.

Primarily your egfr is determined largely by the Creatinine level in your blood. This can vary significantly from test to test and is highly influenced by your hydration level, diet (what you ate the day or 2 before the test), over exercise, overweight, sugar consumption, above normal blood pressure.