Can intake of dairy and vegetables predict the risk of cardiovascular disease in diabetics?

[rvmasalvad]

Can intake of dairy and vegetables predict the risk of cardiovascular disease in diabetics?

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Diabetics are twice as likely to have cardiovascular disease (CVD). CVD is the narrowing or blockage of blood vessels and can lead to heart failure or stroke. The most common cause of narrow arteries is due to the formation of fats on the walls of arteries. This leads to increased stiffness of the arteries and this stiffness can indicate whether a patient may develop CVD. Current methods to measure arterial stiffness include pulse wave velocity, which is a measure of how fast the pressure waves move in the blood vessels in order to move the blood along. However, intake of certain foods such as dairy products and vegetables may also be able to predict

A higher intake of reduced-fat dairy products, particularly yoghurt, and a higher intake of vegetables were associated with a lower arterial stiffness.

This study concluded that a greater consumption of reduced-fat dairy products and vegetables may be associated with lower arterial stiffening, which could reduce the risk of cardivascular event

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[ramana42 Volunteer]

I agree with this finding.I always use low fat milk and consume vegetables rather liberally.

[sandybrown]

I am afraid I disagree with this findings.

Milk is a natural product, if you use chemical to remove fat then this is bad for human heat. Why is this done? this is to make money from the by product and so on.

Butter, cheese, full fat milk, coconut oil, olive oil are some example of good food with controlled quantity is good for human health.

Veg Ghee or animal Ghee again is good for human health.

Type 2 medication can contribute towards CVD!!!!

There has been ,many TV experiments in UK, in one program they showed how low fat spread is made.

Eating plenty of fresh fruits and veg very good.

[Hidden]

Wrong. Dairy industry uses means to extract fats frm milk to make it low-fat or no-fat. These versions are harmful not just because they have added chemicals that may be harmful but also because alongwith fats we lose other good things too n total composition undergoes a drastic change. Not a good idea at all.

Also, food for thought---do we really believe that cholesterol from saturated fats is used to repair the damaged vessel walls only when we have hyperlipidaemia? What repairs them otherwise? When there's no excess cholesterol in Blood?

Having said that, having loads of non-starchy vegetables and 2-3 servings of fruits is a great idea, apart from caring for your gut health.

[Hidden]

Loads of vegetables and fruits have loads of chemicals , The more we eat the more chemicals go in to our body unless they are organic .

[sandybrown in reply to Hidden]

WE have to grow our own veg to avoid chemicals. Frozen veg are better that fresh veg. Chemicals are in the air we breath, very difficult to avoid it.

[Hidden in reply to sandybrown]

Actually diabetes is not the contribution diet alone . polluted air , polluted water , polluted food , polluted environment in general all colluded together to give that state of health .In this how many are in our control .If nuclear wastes are not merged in seas ,chemicals are not used in cultivation of food produced ,if animals are not given growth hormones and antibiotics , If the use of artificial light is reduced to the minimum , if unnecessary noise is curtailed , if junk food production is banned all auto immune and psychosomatic diseases are going to be wiped out of the planet earth . POLLUTION HAS BECOME A WAY OF LIFE , GADOLINIUM a contrasting agent used in MRIS stays in the tissues and brain for years . It is toxic and could cause allergies , asthma , stroke , tumors of the brain and spine . It impairs kidney function . It is said to cause nefrogenic systemic fibrosis in patients with kidney diseases . Electromagnetic radiation from cell phone phones and towers affects brain and heart , But more and more towers are getting erected . The list is endless . Where we are going to end up after 5 years unless a step is taken to correct all these things .When compared to all these dangers the issue of diet is very small . If food intake is limited to the energy spent and fiber rich fresh food is taken with lots of greens the problem gets controlled . I feel lot of time is un necessarily spent in the forums leaving more important issues .

[Praveen55 Moderator in reply to Hidden]

Hidden

While I agree with you on most of the issues that you have raised, diet is still the most important factor for resolving type 2 diabetes.

The bigger issues that you have raised need intervention from bigger agencies and Government policies. The dietary changes that need to be made is a personal choice. At the same time we can put our efforts mobilising support for bigger changes. IT IS DEFINITELY NOT A WASTE OF TIME DISCUSSING ABOUT APPROPRIATE DIETS FOR DIABETES OR GENERAL HEALTH.

You are saying that we should ban production of junk foods. If we understand what junk foods are and stop buying them, they will go out of market and stop producing. That is within our power if we decide to exercise.

[sandybrown in reply to Hidden]

What do you consider are important issues to be discussed?

List them and have a discussion!

There is technology change in the world, new power source, small items with less power requirement. In the 70's when one is waiting for an electric train in the winter and raining, holding an umbrella gave electro magnetic radiation. May people spent time researching, all the research has been useful in today's technology.

Lots of food available to eat out or taken in, if we can cook at hone and eat good food on a daily basis then why worry about junk food.?

It is up to every individual to offer positive information for every member to learn.

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

But this diet is exactly what we are discussing. Fresh veggies and fruits and high fiber content. Agree environment is more polluted than it ever was. However, we are alive still. We need to do what best we can do within available resources. Ideal environment is not possible so make best use of what we've got!😊 for cleaning chemicals ridden veggies and fruits I saw one product in a shop called vegetable purifier. Else, one can immerse all veggies into fresh clean water with added natural white vinegar, to undo sm chemicals at least.

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

If we resign to fate and keep quiet things go out of hand in no time . some 20 to 30 houses in a colony can take up a community project for vegetables and fruits , sharing the expenses and produce so that all of them can enjoy organic produce . Initially it sounds an impossible task but it is very much practical when once the movement starts . Like that if the entire colony forms in to some groups and starts , it is going to give healthy food with added benefits of fresh air and greenery and physical exercise .The push button culture of modern world does not encourage the idea . Even milk and milk products can be procured like that. Any thing on massive scale needs more resources and man power but on a small scale the need for more people and more money does not arise .In the olden days people never used to depend on markets for their needs of vegetables , milk and milk products .Then again when it is taken up by small groups they can pool resources and procure a small land for this common project . The colony looks beautiful with green pieces of land and can afford fresh cool air . It is said where there is a will there is a way . We need not wait for some body to come do some thing . We ourselves have to change for our common good . All the houses if fitted with solar panels enegy produced in each house is sufficient to meet the needs for their houses and the community harvesting of vegetables and fruits , When greenery on this scale is introduced air pollution decreases drastically ,Rain harvesting and drip irrigation reduce the dependence on the corporation water . The water pollution can be checked if the dependence on outside agencies for water comes down . The rest of pollution due to industrial and technological advancement is not in our hands to control .

[suramo Star]

We've long been advocating full fat dairy / milk.Milk without cream is sugar only. Not good for diabetics. But preferred milks are coconut and almond.

[sandybrown in reply to suramo]

Take any milk, check the sugar content, natural or added.

Fresh milk is good for you, butter is good for, how it is used is where the problem is!

[Hidden in reply to suramo]

Absolutely. I am consuming nut milks instead these days and they work well for me.

[gangadharan_nair]

Most cardiovascular diseases can be prevented by addressing behavioural risk factors such as tobacco use, unhealthy diet and obesity, physical inactivity and harmful use of alcohol using population-wide strategies.

People with cardiovascular disease or who are at high cardiovascular risk (due to the presence of one or more risk factors such as hypertension, diabetes, hyperlipidaemia or already established disease) need early detection and management using counselling and medicines, as appropriate.

[Hidden]

Very interesting. Thanks for posting the artical