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Anti-Inflammatory Diet: How to Choose the Right Cooking Oil

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.....Omega-6 and omega-3 fatty acids contain essential polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) that are important for good health. Since our body cannot produce some of these fats, we need to consume them through the food we eat every day.

......… consuming too much omega-6 while taking not enough omega-3 fatty acids could promote inflammation.

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Hmmm But @anup Bhai

the web link says coconut oil is not good for the ppl with liver problem...

Read here what author says...

Cons: Negligible omega-3 fats content. Its coconut-y taste and odor can overwhelm other food. Unrefined, virgin coconut oil, like other unrefined oils, tends to have lower smoke point than their highly refined counterparts. Coconut oil’s high MCT levels may render it unsuitable for people with liver problems.

Further he adds in comment section .....

Alan Ng says:

15 April 2013 at 11:04 am

Hi, you mentioned one of the cons for coconut oil is that “its high levels of MCTs may also make the oil unsuitable for people with liver problems.” Why is that? Thanks.

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WP says:

15 April 2013 at 11:22 am

Hi Alan, thanks for your question. Medium-chain triglycerides are not digested in the GI tract but are instead transported to the liver directly where they are broken down and absorbed. Hence, the concern for people with liver problem is that the consumption of MCT, or also known as medium-chain fatty acids, may stress the already weakened liver further. Hope this helps.

What do u say.... is it good for us??? as most of diabetic ppl have NAFLD problem

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Can I use CBC brand cocunut oil because vco not available

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zakir-375 I am not aware about brand from Pakistan...

Further coconut oil that I use is local cold pressed non refined coconut oil....nothing branded.

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please see here: google.com.pk/search?q=cbc+...

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zakir-375 Bhai....I never used branded coconut oil....so unable to tell you about same.....

Sorry friend...

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Thanks cure Bhai for help.

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cure ,

What price do you get co at?

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@anup Bhai

VCO not good for people with Liver problem? How and Why exactly?

The author has given the explanation... I made it bold....

But again....read here some more information....

battlebrew.co.za/difference...

Essentially coconut oil is a mix of fats and other components:

Coconut oil:

Capric Acid 5% C8:0

Caprylic Acid 7% C10:0

Lauric Acid 52% C12:0

Myristic Acid 17% C14:0

Palmitic Acid 8% C16:0

Oleic Acid 6% C18:0

Other components 5%

C6-12 are defined as Medium Chain fatty Acids or Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCTs).

C12 and higher are defined as Long Chain fatty Acids or LCFAs. Please note that Lauric C12 sits on the border of medium and long chain!

(Note this is 52%)

What makes MCTs unique is that their tail length is short enough that it allows them to be absorbed through the mitochondrial membrane directly into the portal vein and into the liver. Some of the MCTs do however find themselves taking the long route via the lymphatic system.....

......What this means in a normal digestion process, as would be triggered by coconut oil because of its 31% LCFA content, is that all of the C8 would make it through, most of the C10 would make it through and some of the C12 would make it through.

The problem is that it’s the rapid absorption that allows MCTs to impact the body the way they do and in a tbsp. of coconut oil all the Caprylic makes it, most of the Capric makes it and only some of the Lauric makes it in time.

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Too much dissection. Pistipeshan. 70% of lauric gets absorbed via blood. Liver is never totally dysfunctional even if there is severe hepatitis. Easily metabolised substances put less strain on liver. Co and vco getting burnt off soon provide instant and good amount of energy to fight the morbid condition. So mct is still better if there is a liver problem imho.

Someone should come up with a good study with vco and mct on cirrhotic patients.

By the way vco and mct are different. Mct having more c 8 and 10 is better than vco. A commercial hype as anup says !!

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@anup bhai

he says....

C6-12 are defined as Medium Chain fatty Acids or Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCTs).

C12 and higher are defined as Long Chain fatty Acids or LCFAs. Please note that Lauric C12 sits on the border of medium and long chain!

is this wrong statement???

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I really don't know who is Dave....

Just tell me is he making wrong statements??

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ahhhh....u just tell and explain....you are GURU....

I don't want to go what abhishek did and what Dave speaks...we will just talk what is fact....

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We are just talking science??? not what some one said something...or anecdotal experiences.... what dave said or how Abhishek landed....

I just want to know what is truth..

As GURU you should tell me atleast this....

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Hmmm well then what is truth????

C6-12 are defined as Medium Chain fatty Acids or Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCTs).

C12 and higher are defined as Long Chain fatty Acids or LCFAs. Please note that Lauric C12 sits on the border of medium and long chain!

is this wrong statement???

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So c 12 is MCT????

Sure, anup???

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So @anup bhai then author is right....

If MCT is shunted to Liver directly then using more MCT will harm already weak liver....

Is that true???

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hmmmmm well original question was is MCT good for already weak liver or not....

Nothing about if it is virgin or not....

But anyways....

here is some more information...

Manufacturers of MCT oils advocate using 100% C8, 100% C10, or a combination of C8 and C10 because they are most rapidly metabolized for energy. C13 is considered a long chain fatty acid, and since C12 is close, it may not be metabolized as efficiently via the portal vein like C8 and C10. Some experts have argued that C12 lauric acid is referred to as an MCT purely for the sake of convenience.

Upon investigation, longer chained fatty acids require carnitine for cellular transportation, but MCTs are passively diffused. Over 70% of lauric acid is thought to be absorbed through the portal vein. In comparison to other MCTs, this percentage is not as significant and therefore may be a less efficient way to obtain energy (or less valuable MCT).

Source: ajcn.nutrition.org/content/...

Source: link.springer.com/article/1...

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Bhai....

forget commercial talks....

Let us understand science....

What is what.....

If it is transported to liver....it may not get processed properly if liver is weak...or you may be burdening already weak liver...

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he is talking about work liver has to do with dose of MCT....

Nothing about other digestive response.

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Just read this post

I had fatty liver

Been taking 4 to 5 teaspoons of VCO daily

In addition of frying eggs using 1 to 2 teaspoons

Liver function has only improved over a year

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so guess that is effect of coconut oil...are we sure?

is it due to mct..and shunting????

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No idea

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yeah .... there is need for more study on subject

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Can you please remind me what VCO does, Hidden , again?

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VCO is Virgin coconut oil

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Thank you!

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Hmmm here we are not considering Ghee

Yes no enzymatic suport true....so liver has to process the same... right????

....by the way...how about butter from Goat milk???? :P

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"Hmmm here we are not considering Ghee

Yes no enzymatic suport true"

Would you please explain.

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nah...

read here....

healthimpactnews.com/2014/m...

Medium chain fatty acids contain between 6 and 12 carbon chains [1]. They are:

C6 – Caproic Acid

C8 – Caprylic Acid

C10 – Capric Acid

C12 – Lauric Acid

These medium chain fatty acids are known to have tremendous health benefits.

C6 through C10, although found in coconut oil, are more predominant in other places in nature, such as goat’s milk. This is reflected in their names, taken from “capra,” which means “goat.”

happydaysdairy.com/sites/de...

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Jane de....I was just kidding....

So free next week???

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So Bhai anup does this means Bapuji was also on LCHF???

he use to drink only goat milk....he was aware about MCT then... :P

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MKG had weak digestive power. The goat milk is easily digestible. Mct ??

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chalo Xmas manyenge.... It will short a days visit.... will be staying at Ujjain... morning to evening will be at Indore.

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sure....

Bhai Pine walon ko pine ka bahana chahiye.... ;)

on same lines....manane walon ko...manane ka bahana chahiye... waise yar aap jaisa GURU milega woh din mere liye kya Diwali se kam hai????

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HAHA....true....

yar sab logo ne maze liye....hum hi aise rahe gaye.....

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jo bhi hai...app se mile wo din diwali se kam nahi hai bhai

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Anup

seems you have some grudge against ghee. Ghee contains 17-19 % sct. Also mct. I put ghee at par with vco. I'm not talking of amul ghee or any other commercially sold butter/ clarified butter which is salted. Perhaps you have bad experience from such products.

Ok. Buy gir ghee and eat it. Or take some pain and get 7% fat milk may be amul gold or diamond and make ghee from its cream. I assure you you will find it tasty and surely would lose weight. I take at least half a katori homemade ghee. I'm more than happy.

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Anup

😊😊😊. Frankly i prefer ghee to vco. The reason being process of fermentation by adding microorganisms involved in making ghee But both have similar uses.

Fermentation process used in making vco is not adding microorganisms to it but allowing coconut milk to settle overnight or more. I think ghee is a bit better.

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I like home made butter and ghee...ofcoz I like coconut meat as snacks...

Hmmmm @anup bhai I think consuming coconut/coconut grating is better than coconut oil/VCO...as vco is costly... further coconut grating will enhance the taste and also supply us more fiber and other nutrients???

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very true @anup bhai... but what about loss of important fiber and other nutrients???

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do coconut meat got some resistant carbs???

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so all coconut starch are digestible and harmful??

can we avoid some other starch and keep room for coconut meat..which is taste enhancer and full of other nutrients???

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great...yes...we can have some room for coconut then...instead of wheat we can go for coconut..

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thesuperfoods.net/coconut/b...

and

nutritiondata.self.com/fact...

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Have wonderful day....

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