Treat diabetes with high fat low carbohydrate

The absolute best dietary advise is to restrict carbohydrates to 30 grams or less per day for each and every day. Replace carbohydrate use by increasing fat consumption largely and moderating protein.

Follow this up with daily regular exercise such as non-stressfull exercise like walking, biking, cleaning the home etc.

I eat a 70% fat; 25% protein, and 5% or less diet. I've been doing this 12+ weeks now and eliminated all my insulin and oral diabetes medications. I've eliminated over 500 insulin injections in these 12 weeks alone.

Carbohydrates & sugars are the primary devil with respect to diabetes. To control this ideas via diet you need to reduce blood sugar levels and insulin levels simultaneously. This is best achieved by adopting a high fat low carbohydrate eating lifestyle.

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  • But Fat will make your condition more worse in long run by increasign insulin resistance. you can read the advice of great American doctor Neal Banard here

    healthydietfordiabetics.com...

  • No you are wrong. LCHF diet hasn't made condition worse. Diabetics with more than 2 decades of diabetic history have gone of drugs. Let's not mix body fat and IR with dietary fat on LCHF and IR. Most have shown improvement in IR when on LCHF diet. There's an Indian guy in Pune minting money after rehashing Barnard's VEGANNISM.

  • Mr. Anup, what do you think about Dr. Oz's Diabetes Cure Natural formula 'Glucocil' The Blood Sugar Optimizer. Does it really works?

  • Hi Shamsaarif,

    My first approach has been DIET -- LCHF Diet.

    Haven't really tried Dr Oz's formula. Actually never needed to try any of these. Why would I try these when diabetics with 2.5 to 3 decades of diabetic history are reducing/going off drugs just on LCHF diet.

  • Vinegar, intermittent fasting or LCHF diets work best.

  • Mr Anup

    Please tell high fat means ghee butter vco cheese chicken mutton fish etc. What in actual you are taking as high fats. Pl explain

  • Hi Chhabinath --

    You can check following post which will lead to forum where almost every bit of LCHF is answered:

    healthunlocked.com/lchf-die...

  • Does it mean butter,cheese,meat and poultry increase the intra cellular fat?There must be a safe limit.

  • Safe limit is eat to satiety and keep carbs low to ~20% -- ie LCHF Diet.

  • Have as few carbohydrates as you please because the essential needs value for carbohydrates us truly ZERO.

  • Ketogenic is difficult for Indians though technically it is LCHF. That's why I move around 20% level (the stricter version of Scandinavian LCHF) which is doable.

    I have tried ketogenic recently and been in "Nutritional Ketosis" and have posted entire detail on my forum. Will try once for one week every alternate month. 30 garms carb is Dr Bernstein - 6:12:12 rule. Less than 50 is for those who want to be in nutritional ketosis. Difficult for Indians but it even takes care of liver dump in huge number of cases.

    Yes, essential needs is ZERO. Dr Bernstein also says so. Body can make all the needed glucose from proteins.

  • Why is ketogenic more difficult for Indians? Is it economic? Fats are too expensive in India? Or is it more cultural? Another inexpensive way to help with diabetes is fasting or intermittent fasting. Also drink apple cider vinegar water and some say cinnamon helps.

    Fasting is by far the most effective means of correcting high blood sugars and burning fat. But I also think long term fasting is the most difficult. Intermittent fasting say a few days a week you choose not to eat for a full 24 hours shows it also helps greatly with diabetes & weightloss.

    The bodies immune system actually regenerates itself when we fast.

  • Because of limited choices as it then boils down to eggs, meat, fish for large part. Yes, I am into intermittent fasting where dinner to lunch no carbs and primarily 3 TBSP VCO fuels my body.

    On my experiments with nutritional ketosis I have posted on my forum. There's a diabetic who undertook 3 day complete fasting and his posted his numbers again on my forum.

  • I suggest you google or youtube dr. Jason Fung. He has excellent no BS education and is a strong advocate oF fasting.

    The longest clinical fast was 383 day without food. The man lost 276lbs and his health only improved throughout his entire fast.

  • I have been there -- Jason -- long back ;)

  • No I'm not confused you are possibly. Anup chooses or has a preference to eat 20% of his calories max as carbohydrate. So if he's eating 2000 calories that's the same thing as saying he limits his carbohydrates to 40 grams a day. Anything under 50 grams gets most people into a state of ketosis.

    It's a scientific fact carbohydrates ate not essential to life. You need zero carbohydrates to live and survive a healthy life.

    I keep mine under 30 grams per day. NOW CONTRAST that with the average person eating 400 to 600 grams a day of sugars hidden in their healthy carbohydrates. 4 grams of carbohydrate per teaspoon of sugar. If you eat 400 grams of carbohydrates this means you had 100 teaspoons of sugar that 1 day of eating.

    Your blood by the way in a normal person hold only 1.5 to 2 teaspoons of sugar if you're healthy. What's your body going to do with those extra 98 teaspoons of sugar you ate. We haven't even gotten to that sugar + fat + protein excess you ate.

  • 98% fat if it goes down the loo, then one is having upset stomach because of sudden surge in fat consumption. Fat has to be ramped up gradually and that's why I have suggested a 3 week transition period to LCHF on my forum.

    But, no! No one is harming oneself by being on LCHF diet. Ketogenic diet is difficult for Indians, but not impossible if one is a non vegetarian.

  • Or go Gung Ho like I did and adjust quickly. I also don't have a gal bladder...

    Everything's working fine eating high fat.

  • Yes there are users who have done it like that. All meals changed in one go. Fat from VCO doesn't need much of gall bladder support. :)

  • Absorbed in your blood. Less than 2% Dietary fat ever reaches your BLOOD.

  • I think you ask uninformed questions. You absorb all calories consumed or you burn them or you excrete them. Yet again less than 2% of eaten fats make it in your blood.

  • Eat as much butter, heavy creams, saturated fats and cheese as you wish. Just keep those carbohydrates low.

  • That's vegan nonsense and not backed by scientific data.

    In fact a recent OSU study proves a fatty acid created in our livers only when the liver is storing body fat in the presence of carbohydrates or sugars plays a key role in inflammatory disease and insulin resistance. It's created only with excess dugar energy by your liver. DIETARY FAT HAS NO IMPACT ON LIVER CREATED FATTY ACIDS.

    So I'm 12 weeks off insulin and have saved myself over 475 belly shots of insulin eating LCHF. By day 3 my sugar levels began to normalize.

    Eating omnivore with insulin my blood sugars would swing from 55 to 300+ with 60 day averages of 155 to 170 over the last 2+ years. A ketogenic diet I swing between 90 to 135 with a 60 day average of 119 and without any drugs whatsoever. If dietary fat was causing diabetes my condition would worsen yep nope! I'm only doing better day after day.

    It's the fatty acid your liver creates when it's storing excess sugars on your hips as fat not your dietary fat that is responsible here. It's only created when excess carbohydrates are eaten.

  • Veganism confuses willingly dietary fat with stored body fat to sound convincing. CARBS are the main CULPRIT.

  • Yes nearly all dietary fats pass through the colon out the rectum. The body does absorb something like 2% or less of all fats we eat. That raises both HDL and LDL Large particle (the neutral LDL) and it lowers the small particle LDL. Over all Cholesterols go up--- but that's due to good cholesterol raising on both the HDL and large particle LDL porch.

    There is a bad fatty acid that contributes to inflammation and artery disease and possibly type 2 diabetes. It's only created in our livers when and only when sugars and carbohydrates are eaten to an excess forcing the liver to convert this excess energy into more body fat. So sugars and carbohydrates create a fatty acid liver production system which leads to CVD.

  • No there is something wrong with your ability of critical thinking & your obvious ignorance of biology.

    Fats are essential. If you don't have any fat in your body & your diet you are dead within 1 week. Critical cholestetols which are essential to life even the so called bad ldl is involved in making your hormones. No Fat = No Cholesterol= No Hormones = Congratulation you're dead.

    Our bodies however carry vast amounts of Fats accumulated since birth and nourishing breast milk which is mostly fats and sugars. We accumulate lots of fat when we are infants and we carry on throughout our entire lives eating fats, proteins, and sugars. We continue to store them all our lives everyday of our lives. Even a lean 200lbs 6' man at 10% body fat carries 20lbs of body fat which is the equivalent of 70,000 calories or 35 2000 calories meals on his lean frame.

    Maybe you haven't noticed. But input output studies clearly show we eat, we poop, we pee. The digestive system works to bring nutrients to the cells from our foods. After nutrients are extracted you excrete the remainder in your urine and feces.

    Eat a pound of food you immediately weigh an extra pound. But after digestion and absorption of nutrient and your next poop you could weigh less. It all depends on energy consumed and energy expended. 3500 calories consumed is considered 1 potential pound gained. But if your 1lb steak is only 600 calories, your salad 250 calories, your starch 150 calories for a total of 1000 calories with nearly 2.5 lbs of food consumed you only weigh 2.5 lbs more until your next meeting with the porcelain throne (toilet). If this is your only meal you ate 1000 calories, but if your body at rest burns 2500 calories per day you would have a net deficiency of 1500 calories or a potential weight loss of nearly 1/2 lb somewhere showing up on your scale in the near future.

    It's common news that our digestive systems transports energy to our cells via our intestines. The cells take what they can as food is passing through our digestive systems on a pretty well regulated highway where speeds are normally well patrolled. Once food makes it from your mouth to your rectum the body has absorbed all it can in this travel time. Everything else is just crap... or waste. If you regularly weighed your urine and stools and graphed their weight in line with your body weight you would find your wright goes up and down in close proximity to the weights and foods you eat daily. Water is a big factor and hard to judge though due to varying levels of sodium and it's causing us to hold less or more water depending on the amounts of sodium consumed daily.

    Labs pretty much validate 1lb of food going in often is nearly a pound coming out or more if you're losing weight. Even if you're gaining weight due to large consumption in/out coorelate fine always.

    You don't absorb all the fats you eat, most just come right out the other end...The body absorbs the caloric value, but your blood only gets about 2% of those fats. The rest either get burned, stored or secreted by your body daily all the days of your life.

  • Okay okay your not the sharpest tool in the shed.

    I said most of the fats are burned, or tossed in the porcelain throne (toilet).

    Lol you're hilarious.

  • Dear magman

    Will you please describe what actually you are taking 70pc of fats. Please name the fat types.

  • All animal saturated fats. Bacon grease, coconut oil (among the best), avocado oil, peanut oil, EVO, Butter. I eat copious amounts of fats and it treats my diabetes better than insulin and pills could ever do for me.

    I only eat highly nutrient rich dark green leafy vefetables. I cook them in added fats too as it extracts more of the plant nutrients.

    I eat creams, butter, half n half for coffees or hot coco etc.

    I don't eat starchy veggies of any kind this include whole grain crap. It's all essentially sugar. No potato, no fries, no whole wheat breads, no cereals, no oats, no soups thicker with flour, I check any and all ingredients for sugars, fructose, or what's and if they have carbohydrates to any degree of excess I don't use them.

    I do eat eggs, all meats and the fatter the better, I eat avocado every day, I moderate the meats to just a little more than I would normally eat them. Too much or super excess protein can become problematic as in excess it can impact renal functions, cause high uric acids and gout. Also all proteins have some carbohydrates and in excess it too can knock you out of ketosis. So as possible choose fats over protein or a nice fatty piece of protein. CHICKEN & SKIN EAT It AL Choose DARK MEAT OVER White meat. If you eat white meat cover in a fat of your choosing (I prefer salted butter)

  • Caffeine spikes insulin though, and peanut or sesame seed oils are high in omega-6

  • Well, I'm unaware of studies showing caffeine spiking insulin. Can you point me to them. Seems all studies I see show that caffeine or Coffee is beneficial to diabetes. Not many people know that coffee has more antioxidant properties than eating x4 oranges... It does not spike sugars if you don't use sugar and therefore does not likely have much if any impact on secreted insulin levels.

    Yes, omega-6 is in peanut , and sesame oil, so use them in small amounts. Overuse can lead to inflammation problems.

  • Here's the first that came up on a search care.diabetesjournals.org/c...

    but I read it first in Atkins years ago, it's a stimulant, and adds to insulin resistance.

    The oxidised tissues in atherosclerotic plaques for instance are due to the immune system fighting infection, so preventing inflammation is more effective than antioxidants, and there are other sources of antioxidants that are not stimulants.

  • Higher Insulin Sensitivity means you IMPROVE your insulin sensitivity. Lower insulin sensitivity is when your cells are not letting insulin inside to transport sugar to the cell. So Higher Insulin Sensitivity is Goodness. Metformin and other oral medications work to increase insulin sensitivity too...

    Extracted from the link you provided:

    "Higher habitual coffee consumption was associated with higher insulin sensitivity (1) and a lower risk for type 2 diabetes (2–6) in diverse populations. In contrast, short-term metabolic studies showed that caffeine intake can acutely lower insulin sensitivity (7–9) and increase glucose concentrations (10–15). Randomized intervention studies are needed to examine whether tolerance to these acute effects develops after longer-term consumption (16). We therefore examined the effects of coffee and caffeine on fasting blood concentrations of glucose and insulin over 2–4 weeks in two crossover studies in healthy volunteers."

  • That was from the background/introduction. The conclusion states "We found that high coffee consumption for 4 weeks increased fasting insulin concentrations compared with coffee abstinence."

    Decaff for me :-)

  • Notice the operative words in use...

    "May reflect"; "We can not exclude the possibility"; "Psychological stress may have"; "Habitual consumption MAY improve"; etc.

    These aren't really scientifically conclusive it's what they saw with a limited trial and of people drinking 13 8oz cups or coffee or more a day. I should point out again coffee is a very strong antioxidant much better than x4 oranges and zero calories if you drink it black. Also I have a whole large family of strong coffee drinkers and I'm the only one with diabetes?

    I drink, 4 to 5 cups of 4oz expresso coffees per day. I use sweet n low, and I use a dash of half n half. I use a dark roast coffee because the darker the roast the less caffeine in your brewed coffee. You get a richer taste because dark beans just turn out to be richer in flavor. But not so with caffeine. Light breakfast brews and the highest in caffeine. Also , there was no correlation that it is the caffeine that's Might impact insulin sensitivity or fasting glucose.

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    diabetes.co.uk/food/coffee-...

    A 2009 study of 40,000 participants noted that consumption of 3 cups of tea or coffee a day lead to a 40% lower risk of type 2 diabetes developing. [21]

    A study of healthcare professionals in the US and UK, published in 2014, showed that those that increased their consumption of coffee experienced an 11% decrease in risk of type 2 diabetes over the next 4 years.

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    coffeeandhealth.org/topic-o...

    Coffee and risk of type 2 diabetes

    In 2002, a Dutch cohort study of 17,111 adults identified 306 new cases of type 2 diabetes and showed that those subjects drinking at least 7 cups of coffee per day were half as likely to develop type 2 diabetes5. This association was statistically significant. Since then, more than a dozen other studies have confirmed this finding in other populations.

    At the end of 2009, a group of expert researchers published a systematic review with meta-analysis of the available prospective epidemiological studies on type 2 diabetes and coffee, decaffeinated coffee and tea consumption6. This meta-analysis covered 457,922 individuals and 21,897 newly diagnosed cases of type 2 diabetes from eight different countries (eight studies from the USA, four from Finland, two from the Netherlands, two from Japan and one study each from Sweden, Singapore, Puerto Rico and the UK).

    The combined data showed a statistically significant negative association between coffee consumption and subsequent risk of type 2 diabetes. Every additional cup of coffee, up to 6-8 cups per day, was associated with a 5-10% lower risk of developing type 2 diabetes. Drinking 3-4 cups of coffee per day was associated with an approximate 25% lower risk of developing type 2 diabetes compared to consuming none or less than 2 cups per day.

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    **********from you link**************

    First, the results of cohort studies may reflect the effects of decades of regular coffee consumption, whereas the present study compared 2–4 weeks of coffee consumption with 2–4 weeks of coffee abstinence. Second, we cannot exclude the possibility that the rapid transition to high coffee consumption (equivalent to ∼13 conventional cups of coffee in study 1) in our studies had detrimental effects on insulin sensitivity. For example, experienced psychological stress may have lowered insulin sensitivity through increased stress hormone concentrations. Third, habitual coffee consumption may improve aspects of glucose metabolism that are not reflected in the outcome parameters of the present study (for example, postprandial glucose metabolism).

    In conclusion, the present results indicate that tolerance to the adverse effects of high coffee consumption on insulin-glucose homeostasis does not develop within a 4-week period.

    ********This stresses that it is premature to advocate high coffee consumption as a means to lower risk for type 2 diabetes. Long-term trials of coffee consumption that include detailed measures of insulin sensitivity and glucose metabolism are warranted to elucidate the apparent discrepancy with studies that observed an inverse association between habitual coffee consumption and risk for type 2 diabetes.***********

  • Just eat high fatty foods. Saturated fats e.g. butter, creams, heavy creams, all animal.fats, oils from olives, peanut oils, coconut oil ( my favorite ), Sesame oil, avocado oil.

    Stay away from vegetable and corn oils. They have been highly processed and most cause inflammation.

  • PUFA loaded industrial vegetable oils are worst oils.

  • 30 g carb per day is too punishing and difficult to sustain. An average Indian patient will soon go out of it due to frustration. 100 g is more practical. I git good results with 100 g per day.

  • Yes, 30 grams is for those who want to hit Nutritional Ketosis and stay there permanently. I had tried this recently, achieved Nutritional Ketosis, but it's very tough to stay long on this diet. It maybe worthwhile going into Nutritional Ketosis maybe once in to or three months.

    Other than this, 100 grams (~20% rule) is great.

  • No its easy to keep carbohydrate 30g or less. I'm into week 12 and still don't miss those carbohydrates. If you're diabetic it's a lifestyle change you must adopt or accept you will be on medications forever.

    I'm 12 weeks insulin and diabetic pill free. I've saved Overy 475 belly shots and eating high fat, moderate protein and low carb has reversed my symptoms.

  • magman --

    Recently I tried and hit Nutritional Ketosis (per spot test urine strips -- around 30 - 40 mark) and stayed there for a few days. Yes, was struck by keto flue and elevated BP and RHR.

    I have decided that I will hit Ketosis for a week every alternate months or so and see how it goes.

  • Mr. Anup, How can a diabetic control his/her High Blood pressure naturally?

    (through food/herbs). I will appreciate your response. Thanks

  • Mr Shamsaarif:

    (1) Turmeric is a blood thinner. So, if you are not already on blood thinners you can try and add 1 teaspoon turmeric per day and see.

    (2) Ashvagandha is another herb which is great. 250mg twice a day.

    (3) LCHF diet as this reduces residual insulin in blood so constriction reduces. How far this will help will also depend on how bad the damage has already happened on a so called healthy diet - High Carb Low Fat -- which is the most unhealthy diet for anyone.

  • Reduce stress

    Eat vitamin K2 rich foods

    Reduce Sodium as possible

    Exercise daily (Walking or biking leisurely; this reduces stress)

    Avoid sugars and lower carbohydrates

    Eat saturated fats in meats, coconut oil, olive oil, etc.

    Drop weight as possible because it puts pressure on your circulatory system. Every pound counts-- but it may not help if you don't improve your inflammation of the circulatory system. You must heal from inside via diet first.

  • Did not know Tumeric thins blood. Nice to know that. I was on xraelto and I discontinued that for baby aspirin.

    Wife has stated echinacea is good herbal blood thinner. I haven't started that one , but thinking about it.

    Will have to research both Tumeric & echinacea. ..

  • magman --

    Many surgeons ask before surgery if one is on turmeric and if they are then they are told to stop 2 weeks before surgery.

  • Okay that must be specific to India due to high consumption of it.

    I will start adding it to my diet on a regular basis.

  • Yes It is highly impractical to live on 30 gms per day carbs . 100 GMS IS MORE IDEALISTIC with daily , intake of Ashwagandha , Tinaspora ,Avenasathiva , 10drops each in a cup of water brings down the Bs to normal levels in a span of 2 months All these medicines are available in any homeopathic shop . When the sugar levels are high one can take Arsenicum Bromatum 3 , 10 drops in cupful of water for 3 weeks This gives permanent relief

  • How much methotrexate do you take? and did you start on that dose of folic acid?

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