Why now a days 'Shooter George' is conspic... - Diabetes India
Why now a days 'Shooter George' is conspicuous by his absence in this Forum
your perfectly right our george absence hs got major impact for people who following LWDR i hape he show his presence in forum please
Yep, a few days back he asked me a question. I replied immediately. Several days have passed since, but no come back from him. I am still waiting for his reply.
Hi ,Shooter George, Why are you silent . Please be present in the forum . Your wellbeing will be seen by all members interested.
K.ramgaswamy
Oh yea even I miss him. Though medfree's lchf is practical and easy to maintain, George sir's is based on faith and hope.
Hi Butter-cup,
On your comment:
"Though medfree's lchf is practical and easy to maintain, George sir's is based on faith and hope."
Who told you that Mr. George was based on faith and hope? I am following LWMD. And to tell you about my experiments:
1. I have stopped taking LWMD for 2 days and I observed my sugar levels go high (FBS-110/115). Again after resuming LWMD, sugar levels are back to normal (FBS - 85/95 at max 100) range.
2. I also tried eating rotis made of Long Wheat + Barley Atta. The results remained same. Sugar levels are under control.
How come you confirm that Mr.George's suggestions are based on faith and hope?
And about his absence, I can not comment on this, its his personal matter. After all it was his ONLY suggestion to try LWMD, its up to the people to follow it or not, as the same is the case with medfree.
Coming to medfree's LCHF diet plan, I have not tried it because I am worried of my lipid profile. May be medfree's body type is supporting that diet.
swamy.
Dear swamy, when I said faith and hope it was for 'curing' and not 'controlling'. I still maintain that for controlling, Lchf is easier tastier n better.
Hi Butter-cup,
Your stand is not confirming to your comments. I hope you understand the difference between 'practical' and 'easier tastier n better'. Mr.George has NOT asked anybody to go to church, pray and hope for miracles to cure diabetes. I am personally, practically, eating LWMD and i am getting the results. Where is the 'HOPE' part in this? Follow it what ever you like, but don't discriminate options. Hope you go it.
swamy.
Dear swamy, somewhere I hav miscommunicated and am sorry. Faith and hope does not relate to any religion, but something within me. Hope - that my diabetics can be cured permanently and faith that it WILL BE - even after stopping LWMD (for 2 days).... George sir has already proved and I hope I do too ! ( actually I m also on LWMD on and off ...but keeping control of carbs is a lot easier for me than staying away from fruits or little sugar, hence lchf)
Dear Mr.SG, Please inform your email . How are you now .My best wishes to you and your family
K.Rangaswamy.
Actually my diet is sort of potpourri. I follow ur diet but In place of carb I take long wheat. Hoping to get cured within six months 
The moral of the story is "Restriction on Food" in one or other form with different options. That is what I pointed out.
I am eating 4 rotis for dinner, 3 rotis for breakfast and normal diet in lunch with diabetic friendly curries with every meal. Please note rotis are made from Long Wheat atta (switched from LWMD to Long Wheat atta 1 month ago). And from the beginning of LWMD I include 1 or 2 eggs (almost daily), 100gm curd (daily), chicken/ fish - 3 or 4 times a week and fruits occasionally. I occasionally (1 or 2 times a week) use extra-virgin olive oil and apple cider vinegar for dressing on salads. I completely stay away from sugar and sugar related products. And my triglycerides are in the range of 220-240 from the beginning.
But, Mr. medfree seriously I would like to know whether you have tried Long Wheat in any form (either as mashed diet or chapati/roti)? In fact, does anybody find increase in sugar levels with Long Wheat? People who find increase in sugar levels with LWMD please let us know, it will be crucial for those who are following LWMD.
In my case, I am not finding any increase in my sugar levels with the above mentioned diet.
swamy.
Yah! I am also really surprise why Mr.S.G is not in forum from last 2 months.
Mr. medfree,
I have already posted my sugar readings in a tabular format, months ago. Even before I started LWMD, my triglycerides were in the range of 220-240 from the beginning, to be precise it was 260. I know these readings do not make anybody happy. Unfortunately, my family members also have the same ranges.
When first detected, HbA1C was 12.3, after 1 month of medication 10.4. Then I started taking LWMD, after again one month it was 8.2, next month 7.4, latest test values are 6.4 (15 days back). I regularly (3 or 4 times in a week) check sugar values at home. And I already mentioned the values. I never found abnormal values after taking LWMD.
"Pancreatic beta cells for the most part do not regenerate once destroyed."
First of all, its not sure whether beta cells got destroyed or not, in case of type-2 diabetes. I am not a medical expert but with my limited knowledge, I came to know that in most cases, FAT around pancreas and liver is the culprit. It disturbs the synchronization and I understand you know the relation among pancreas, liver and insulin.
I am never against trying options including your high fat diet plan. But once, I reach my target of HbA1C < 6.0, I will try other options. But you seem to be so stubborn that without trying LWMD option, you talk against it. And you sometimes posted either product promos or user comments of practicing high fat diet.
Again and again I am re-instating, it is known to almost all diabetics that carbohydrates are the worst enemy causing high sugars. But Long Wheat is showing some pro-insulin properties. I am not able find the previous articles stating the same, in this forum. Once I find I post them again. But equally, I am trying to know from the people who are using Long Wheat, whether the same results are found with them or not, or any side effects.
I think you already got the fitting reply from Mr.George that it is not 'Wheat' its 'Long Wheat'.
Try to stick to your suggestions to diabetics but do not discriminate other options without trying them or at least even without hearing anything against them.
Let us help others and ourselves.
swamy.
Hi Naqsh,
The most important thing is avoiding RED MEAT altogether. In my case also, it was the main culprit. Unfortunately, my working schedule and place forced me to stay without work-outs, without proper sleep and bad food-habits. All these converged and the result is diabetes in me.
If you really want to bring your sugar levels under control, immediately remove RED MEAT from your meal. It will have lot of impact. Recently, I started adding flax seed powder and apple cider vinegar for sprinkling on salads.
swamy.
Hi Naqsh,
Recently, along with my normal breakfast I ate dosa made of raagi and after 2 hours I found sugar values very normal. I think, you can add raagi also in your dosa preparation. Instead of vegetable oil, you can try olive oil (need not be extra virgin) or mustard oil (as others are suggesting to use it) where ever necessary.
swamy.
ragi is bad for diabetic
Ya sonu1196, me also happened to read some other articles. Though it is with high GI, alone, people are claiming that recipes made of it are showing good results. In my case also, this is third time that when I had a dosa of raagi, my sugar levels were wonderfully low. Not sure, where lies the trick.
Thanks for making me read more about it. Naqsh, please make a note of it.
swamy.
That is really great to hear Naqsh. Those FBS values are encouraging. But one thing (as all doctors suggested), DO NOT cut down your medicines at once. Keep continuing with your medicines along with your changed diet regime, but keep monitoring your sugar values too, so that sugar values do not fall below normal.
Even I also felt the same symptoms in the beginning when I was on normal dosage of medicine (later reduced based on doctor's suggestion). But the BIG MISTAKE most of us do, even I did it, is taking artificial drinks in such situations. Better keep oranges, yellow-apple, apples or any other fruits with you and eat them when ever you feel that way. I used to carry green raw cucumber or apple. Green raw cucumber is the best one to fill your stomach and keep less hungry. Stay away from colas or soft drinks, they do irreversible damage.
I will try flax-seed + fresh garlic (very lightly fried in olive oil for removing its rawness) chutney with dahi and fresh coriander leaves along with dosas made of Long Wheat and Raagi. That would be a wonderful combination for breakfast, I guess.
Dear imbu2008, naghappy, type2, Rengasir, aswini, Butter-cup, Swamyonline, medfree, uppala,
I am extremely sorry for my absence/silence. It was just accidental/coincidental; certainly not deliberate. I am really touched by the concern of all of you
Some learned members who consider themselves to be the epitome of universal wisdom accuse me of being descriptive, secretive (in spite of not-sharing-email-ID-&-phone-number-and-discouragin-private-messaging-over&again) & cherry picking type (they, in spite of having not seen or even heard of Long Wheat (healthunlocked.com/diabetes... ---MYPOST 13, Name LONG WHEAT printed on packet. ) go to the extent of proclaiming that LW can not recuperate the Pancreas/Beta-cells "FOR SURE"). In spite of that I shall explain.
I had ticked all the email alert option in my account. When some members insisted on sharing my email ID, in order to discourage them, said that I am contemplating on levying a fee for response through email & those simply backed out.
Soon in a log-in, the email provider prompted a questionnaire to update personal data WITH AN UNUSUAL QUESTION - "are you doing a business?" This question brought some stray thoughts to my mind & next day I un-checked most of the email options in the HealthUnlocked's account leaving "email me when someone comments on what I write".
After some days there was NO NEW MAILS from HealthUnlocked. Then there was some problem with the site s/w. After more days I decided explore to find out whether something has gone wrong somewhere. The email option that I had checked had been un-checked some how.
Even after activating the email option, there were no mails. Then I grazed over the older questions & responded to some which were felt relevant & called for (negating LWMDR & my statement of cure). That irritated some & I got hooked to it.
I have some other social & personal activities also. All those days were away from interne. On return, the PC was down.
Thus the days went on. Sorry once again. Your words energises me a lot.
Why is that those who promised to follow LWMDR & report progress are not coming up? I am eager to know what prevents them from doing so?
Keep asking so that I can keep telling.
Hi Mr.George,
My reply to this same message is not appearing here. That is why I am replying again. Though I was reporting my progress to you through PM, I have not posted the results here as some of the members felt it is too much to read all that stuff.
What ever it is, recently I switched to rotis made of Long Wheat and Barley (4:1 ratio) and yet I am NOT noticing any abnormal sugar values. I am into 5th month of my diabetes and now my HbA1C is 6.2 (it was 12.8 in the first month) with medicine on. And I am decreasing dosage of medicine from time to time as per doctor's suggestion.
As medfree was strongly pointing it out, and rightly so, that any wheat is carb and carb is enemy of diabetics. But, at least in my case, I am not noticing any abnormal values even if I eat an extra roti sometimes. I can say that I am eating only 3 times, not starving and maintaining normal sugar values.
But I have been requesting others who follow Long Wheat to report their results (good or bad) so that it would be helpful for new and existing followers of Long Wheat. Even, I asked medfree to try it and report if it really is not helpful or causing damage to diabetics. But he seems to be in a different frame of mind set, he feels that people are here to promote Long Wheat and are doing business with it.
Hope to hear from others who follow it.
Regards.
swamy.
That is SO SAD that you are openly saying you had to play. It is not game. People, unknowingly or unknowingly with their limited knowledge, are eagerly looking for options to control/ cure diabetes and it is "Mine Is Bigger Than Yours" game for you?
I do not know anything about what Mr.George has said against you and vice-versa of your methods of controlling diabetes, but you are openly saying that you are playing game and trying to proove that only one method is correct. THIS IS NOT INFORMATION/ KNOWLEDGE SHARING, MY GENIUS FRIENDS. It is not even "ICE" like college to only SCORE more on other students.
Dear George sir, I for one, am not reporting coz I haven't followed ur diet scrupulously and regularly. Another doubt - do I have to mash the boiled wheat ? I love the chewy texture when they are whole. And, do I have to eat the minimum quantity for optimum results, coz I can only eat a table spoon at one time along with curries.
Thank you George sir. I shall b a patient patient
Even I am not much interested to reply to you in this regard. It is up to your ethics to feel that I am also playing game here. Ask any member including your ethical self that where I did seem to be playing games and taking one side. I am open to all options, mentioned it many times. Unfortunately you are with one sided thinking, I do not mind that.
PROVOKING: Who did it. read your own and your friend's statements on information/ knowledge sharing. You guys almost tried to show segregation among people. It really needs tit for tat reply and I did it. SO SAD, you guys are taking sides and accusing others, immaturely. Play it what ever you feel like, it is up to the people to receive it or not.
How does LCHF work on a high BP cum diabetic person ?
Man, you seem to be out of your minds. Butter-cup already said sorry for what he has stated and it was over there. There was no tit-tat in that, rather you indulged in it with pre-determined intentions. It is really useless discussing with you on this point, any more. At least you realized and accepted that stronger tits would come for childish, immature tats. I need not to mention anything further, my replies told whether they were tits or tats.
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