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In this video, from about 12 minutes+ he talks about lectin causes PD and autoimmune disease...Has anyone come across similar information?

youtu.be/mjQZCCiV6iA?si=ryx...

But then this information:

news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...

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Millbrook profile image
Millbrook

Hi TL. I cannot view your video. Can you please repost?

Someone posted that a man having PD symptoms had his symptoms reversed when he was put on a gluten free diet.

Another member also posted that active dreams reduced by 80% by going gluten and lectin free.

We discovered my husband is gluten intolerant and We started gluten free diet one year ago.. The thing is it is extremely difficult to adhere to because gluten is very pervasive in foods. So you can try very hard to avoid but leakages here and there invariably bring the antibodies up.

After members feedback that avoiding lectin reduced active dreams we embarked on it as well and am very happy to say that active dreams have reduced drastically so I am really interested in your video clip.

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TL500 in reply toMillbrook

Sorry and thank for your information. I've just edited the link.

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TL500 in reply toMillbrook

I think he just mentioned briefly about PD, but that made me aware that lectin also effects PD (?). You have given me good information regarding this.It's really hard as I don't know what else to eat to be low carb, lectin , sugar and gluten free and not get constipation if not eat much vegetables and fruits?

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Bolt_Upright in reply toMillbrook

That is great! I cut out Lectins about a year ago. My RBD is very rare now. I am hoping stopping the dreams means stopping progression to PD (I have not been diagnosed with PD but did have some symptoms which have all lessened in the last year. There is another user on this forum that is lectin free also.

I am gluten free also. Gluten free is fairly easy to do if you avoid processed food and don't mind eating the same thing all the time. My diet consists of Ruminant meat (beef), onions, pistachios, sardines, tuna, cheddar cheese, sour cream, BROCCOLI SPROUTS, and Pepsi with real sugar.

Dr. Gundry will tell you cheese has lectins, but really it is a lectin like substance and I am not giving up cheddar cheese. I have posted on why I still eat cheddar cheese before. You can find a lectin free guide and detailed reasoning on why I eat cheddar cheese (way down in the thread) here: healthunlocked.com/cure-par...

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Millbrook in reply toBolt_Upright

Thanks Bolt. My husband did a blood test that revealed food intolerances . He cannot take dairy, eggs, gluten and over 70 types of foods including broccoli, cauliflower, other vegetables containing lectins. That’s how we started on the gluten n lectin free diet. Thanks for your feedback too.

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AGH_1966 in reply toMillbrook

Oooh. That test sounds useful - what type of test did you ask for?

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Millbrook in reply toAGH_1966

The website is Imupro.com

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AGH_1966 in reply toMillbrook

Thank you :)

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RBDNoPDYet in reply toMillbrook

Millbrook do you know where you got your food intolerance test? Was it online?

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Millbrook in reply toRBDNoPDYet

Imupro.com

They have it in different countries . You contact their representative and someone comes to house to take your blood.

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pacwest in reply toBolt_Upright

Dr. Gundry has an excellent book, The Longevity Paradox - How To Die Young At A Ripe Old Age. It covers Lectins in great detail.

I cut my lectin intake drastically last January to present. Prior to that I had started experiencing excessive inflammation in a knee, shoulder and worst of all an elbow. Within about a month all inflammation was gone, absolutely gone !

It's amazing what kinds of food out there that we assume is very good for us, when in fact they wreak havoc on the gut biome.

And rice, I love rice, mostly black or red rice. But externally rice is loaded with lectin, same as almond skins, two big no-no's with Gundry.

So now, unwilling to give up my rice, I ferment it for 24/36 hours in water with apple cider vinegar. Rinse it prior to cooking. Then I cook my rice in organic chicken bone broth with a healthy dollop of coconut oil, steam as usual then refrigerate it over night, warming it up as needed from there out.

Bottom line his book is excellent, I highly recommend it ! ( the rice fermentation thing is not in the book, I got that someplace else ;)

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TL500 in reply topacwest

So eating rice that way you have no inflammation?

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pacwest in reply toTL500

Zero inflammation !

But when I dove headfirst into eliminating lectins from my diet there was much more to it than just fermenting my rice before cooking.

For instance almost >every night< of my entire adult life I'd have an industrial size bowl of stovetop organic white popcorn. After diving into Gundry's book I found out popcorn is lectin heavy. It hurt but I eliminated it, entirely !

So I have to believe that my having eliminated as many lectins as possible from several different food sources combined played into entirely eliminating my inflammation with no pharmaceuticals involved whatsoever.

Good luck !

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Bolt_Upright in reply topacwest

I really miss my popcorn :( :)

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pacwest in reply toBolt_Upright

I missed it really bad too at first, but now I'm ok without.

Then I moved to popping sorghum, cute little things, which is lectin free, but haven't even had any of that in a while.

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TL500 in reply topacwest

I think Dr gundry said if eat rice then eat white rice and cook in pressure cooker, am I right?My rice cooker has fast cook option, is that equivalent to pressure cook?

So this way can we eat as much as we like or still restricted or not to eat at all?

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pacwest in reply toTL500

His reasoning behind that is because white rice is stripped of its hull.

Very little nutritional value with white rice though, that's why I ferment before cooking, then refrigerate my dark rice to neutralize the lectins.

He also frowns upon legumes, unless pressure cooked.

edit: I've never had a rice cooker but it seems it would be some sort of equivalent to a pressure cooker, I honestly don't know. I've always cooked my rice in a stainless pot with lid. I typically cook two cups of rice, which prior to fermenting required 3 1/2 cups of liquid. Now that I ferment I only need 3 cups of liquid to cook.

I bring the rice, chicken broth and coconut oil to a boil with the lid off, then turn the heat down to low and cover for 45 minutes leaving the lid on the entire time. I then turn the heat off, remove the lid and stir it with a fork and put the lid back on. Perfect rice every time.

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TL500 in reply topacwest

Correct me if I'm wrong, to me I have a feeling, fermentation rice with apple cider vinegar makes the rice not taste as original? I like the rice cook in just water or with meat like Chinese congee.

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pacwest in reply toTL500

After fermenting you rinse the rice before cooking, zero apple cider vinegar taste at all !

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Ghmac in reply topacwest

OK I like this fermenting iea. Are you using white rice. I have only used brown rice and wild rice for decades, but I understand why white.

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pacwest in reply toGhmac

I never use white rice, very little nutritional value.

I like red rice or black rice, the black rice is not the sticky forbidden kind.

Brown rice and wild rice is good too.

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Ghmac in reply topacwest

I am not sure who would know this, or how you would find out......but do you think they soak commercial beans before they are canned? Or do you think they can them in water - under pressure and call it good?

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TL500 in reply toTL500

Apart from lectins from vegetables and fruits (?) We have to be beware of oxalate too? Are these in the same produce? And then not to eat gluten... what can we eat then?? I don't know what to eat to be healthy anymore! Any advice? Thanks

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RBDNoPDYet in reply toMillbrook

Millbrook are your active dreams still reduced?

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Millbrook in reply toRBDNoPDYet

Yes

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Millbrook

Thanks TL

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TL500 in reply toMillbrook

No worries ☺️

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LAJ12345

Really? Most things I have read say to eat beans every day. Could it just be gluten as that is known to be a trigger for some people.

What to eat?? Lectins are in most vege proteins. 😢

** ah, gptchat to the rescue

“If you're following a vegetarian diet and also avoiding lectins, you'll need to be selective about the sources of protein you consume, as many plant-based protein sources contain lectins. Lectins are naturally occurring proteins found in a wide range of foods, including legumes (beans, lentils, chickpeas), grains, and some vegetables. Here are some lectin-free or low-lectin vegetarian protein sources to consider:

Tofu and Tempeh: These soy-based products are generally lower in lectins compared to whole soybeans. However, some individuals with lectin sensitivities may still need to be cautious.

Nuts and Seeds: Most nuts and seeds are low in lectins. Examples include almonds, walnuts, chia seeds, flaxseeds, and hemp seeds. However, it's essential to consume them in moderation due to their calorie content.

Quinoa: Quinoa is a pseudocereal that is naturally lectin-free and is a complete source of protein, meaning it contains all essential amino acids.

Leafy Greens: Some leafy greens like spinach, kale, and collard greens are relatively low in lectins and can contribute to your protein intake.

Seitan: Seitan, also known as wheat gluten, is a high-protein meat substitute made from gluten. It is lectin-free but not suitable for those with gluten sensitivities or celiac disease.

Non-Legume Vegetables: Many non-legume vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower, and asparagus are low in lectins and can provide some protein.

Eggs and Dairy: If you include dairy and eggs in your diet, they can be good sources of protein. Eggs are typically lectin-free, and dairy products like cheese and yogurt are generally low in lectins.

Plant-Based Protein Powders: Some plant-based protein powders, such as pea protein or rice protein, are processed to remove lectins and can be suitable for those avoiding lectins.

Mushrooms: Mushrooms, such as shiitake and maitake, can be a source of protein and are low in lectins.

Spirulina: This blue-green algae is a complete protein source and is naturally lectin-free.

It's important to note that the lectin content in foods can vary, and individual tolerance levels may differ. If you have specific dietary restrictions or sensitivities, it's a good idea to consult with a healthcare professional or registered dietitian to help you plan a balanced and lectin-free vegetarian diet that meets your nutritional needs.

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patchitforward in reply toLAJ12345

Very helpful information!

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Alphasyn

In many aspects a very interesting talk! I am not able to understand all the chemical stuff, but the resulting food advice seems crucial (and not only for PD)!

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Beanie57

OMG.. LD is a lectin!!

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Cagey84

Hi Thal, I don’t think levodopa is a lectin. What’s the source for your statement?

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Ghmac

fava bean

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Cagey84

Sorry Thal, but levodopa isn’t a lectin. It’s an amino acid not a protein and doesn’t bind specific carbohydrates. A bean as a source isn’t relevant.

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Shumbah

I am listening to brilliant Audio book

GUT CHECK by Dr Steven Gundry

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