If you've read any of my posts... you know that I've been skeptical of the cheap (under $500) red light/ PMB devices to treat PD.
However... I'm reading good things about Vielight:
DISCLAIMER: I have nothing to do with this company.
DISCLAIMER: Almost a year ago I posted here about Vielight. As I recall, I only got a few replies and one person wanted to SELL his Vielight to me. So I am not vouching for this product.
understood and thanks for the post ... but the cheap $500 or less 'red light toys' do NOT have the power to pass through a 'hand' let along the thick bone of the 'skull'--------------------
you might want to watch this entire video to understand the science
I agree Victor, I thought the same thing.but another question comes naturally: If it passes through the bones could it be used in radiology? Perhaps, in my opinion, the mechanism of action is different, perhaps it concerns the blood more, maybe it slightly warms the brain and stimulates local autophagy, or perhaps it changes the emotional state of the person for the better (light has this effect). No one seems to know the mechanism of action or mistaken?
the 'minimum' wattage required for red light therapy to drill 3 INCHES into our brain's substania nigra and basil ganglia (where our PD problems are) is 10 watts...------------
the cheapie red light toys are LESS than 1 watt...
but what some of the negative folks (against me) don't understand...
it is not the 'total number of lights' that determine the effectiveness or total wattage of the coronet duo (and similar cheap chinese and amazon knock-offs)....
it is both wattage... frequency... and 'fluence'
fluence is the scientific word used in the video above by the neuro researchers
it means that when the light finally arrives within our brain's problem area...
there has to be enough "fluence" (combined light properties) to sufficiently
1 : the number of particles (such as photons or neutrons) incident on a sphere divided by the cross-sectional area of the sphere : the total number of particles per unit area with which a material is irradiated particle fluence.
Ok I understand the physics, but in a context of an in vivo human brain you can't overdo it without causing side effects. There can never be a laser flow passing through the skull in hight volume however sophisticated it is, because the skull was created precisely to protect. In my opinion, light stimulus as a function of signal with the exact wavelength is more important than the power of light flow.
she starts speaking at around 6 minutes -- don't be dissuaded by the 'technical stuff' because you will hear 'PEARLS of WISDOM/ KNOWLEDGE' throughout about PMB -- and a tiny bit about PD
intranasal light therapy 'is' a great way to access the brain because the nose lining has millions of blood vessels... BUT having said that... BEWARE 'Vielight'! I checked out their Facebook Group...and there are '2' groups and one of them is ... DEAD... because (according to the Vielight rep that I personally spoke to on the phone)... the "moderator" is... DEAD.
and everybody forgets the most important thing about any of these red light devices (and that includes the one that sell for up to $10,000 -- like the cognitolite) ...
WHERE are the HAPPY HAPPY success videos from PD or Alzheimer patients???
The videos that are NOT edited... NOT sponsored by the manufacturer of these devices?
The 'closest' I've come to finding supportive video testimonials is on this medical clinic's website... and NONE of the testimonials are for PD!
infrared light at 1070nm passes through bone more easily than lower wavelengths. Bone's crystalline structure makes light pass easier than through mucosal skin than surface skin tissue which scatters the light. I sent you the paper on this from U. Bristol 2000 over a month ago.
I saw that a study using this frequency on a dementia study with positive results. Unfortunately, most of the devices you can buy claim to use about 850nm.
There is evidence in the peer reviewed literature on 1070nm stimulation and multiple testimonials now on Trust Pilot.
Peer reviewed papers only suggest there is validity to the assumptions around mechanisms of action and clinical efficacy, do not mistake this for anything like a guarantee of effectiveness for anyone. I’ve been a clinician and published researcher in this field for 17 years so I speak from considerable experience.
I'm sure you're being sponsored by the company that manufactures vielight (despite your disclaimer)
The Coronet is NOT healing me of tremor or any other motor symptoms but it is healing me of my brain fog. Since I bought and started using it regularly, I feel I've been gradually improving cognitively
Coronet cost more than than $500. Many people who bought it have told you this several times but you refused to take that in. More so you're bent on destroying the brand of Coronet and similar red light gadgets by calling them toys. This is why I'm so sure you you're a sponsored mouthpiece
If you can't correct yourself for the price at least, which easy for you to verify, how can I trust or believe anything else you say.. And that's why I don't believe your disclaimer
Ari Whitten’s book on red light therapy is worth reading…The ultimate guide to red light therapy.He goes through how it works with many supporting papers and recommendations of the best products in his experience, as well as discount codes to use when buying some of them.
Also I heard a podcast some time back saying red light can energise mitochondria which can then travel around body between cells in the extra cellular matrix so I guess even if it doesn’t immediately penetrate the depth of the brain it can stimulate mitochondria which could then penetrate the brain?
“The release of mitochondria or mitochondrial components into the extracellular space has important immune consequences. After an episode of acute injury, release of mitochondrial components into the extracellular medium and bloodstream may trigger potent pro-inflammatory responses. In fact, mitochondrial components can be recognized by cells of the immune system as damage-associated molecular patterns (DAMPs) (Zhang et al., 2010; Galluzzi et al., 2012; West et al., 2015). Different mitochondrial proteins such as TFAM, together with other mitochondrial DAMPs like N-formyl peptides, mtDNA, cardiolipin or extracellular ATP, robustly activate the inflammatory response (Weinberg et al., 2015).”
I have Ari Whittons book on red light and it has a lot of information in it. I haven't bought one yet but I keep thinking about it. It's just spending that much money along with the time if I'm not 75% sure it will work. 🥊
I rationalised it as being a once off expense. We have had it 2 years and use it twice a day . Compare to a supplement plus postage that you take every day and it doesn’t seem so bad.
Also I use hubby’s one too some times, I should use it more. So it can be shared.
And if you really don’t find it helps I imagine you can resell secondhand to someone for maybe 50% of purchase price.
I thought Ari's book says that mitochondria can exit the cell and migrate to where they're most needed. Maybe not, maybe I read it elsewhere. I believe I can get 80% back if vielight doesn't help but lately I don't feel the brain dysfunction that had plagued me for years.
While waiting for the cure (which I don’t believe will come) you can help your body out by eating the perfect diet with lots of vegetables , fruit good protein, olive oil, not too much meat or dairy or alcohol, eliminating any toxins in your food(additives and allergens sugar seed oils) cooking utensils, air, water (with filters and purifiers) .Reduce medications to minimums
Exercise, aerobic, stretching, strength,
Test for deficiencies, infections, heavy metals
Reduce as much unnecessary stress as possible, but make sure you have a purpose in life. Try and maintain as much interaction with people as possible so you can talk a lot. Or even talk to a pet.
Make sure you have all the nutrients your body needs for all its enzyme processes eg vitamins, minerals
I think it is possible to wind back a bit of the damage and halt or at least slow down progression if you give your body all it needs and relieve it of any toxins. Not sure if brain cells and areas can be regenerated but some research says it might be able to happen.
I think progression is probably caused by mitochondrial decline, symptoms caused by deterioration in brain like accelerated aging which causes a snowballing effect of symptoms and medications and side effects and more medication….
You have to wind back that process and it it will be slow and hard initially.
I'm in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania. Let me know if you see anything in my area. Having a difficult time finding a clinic that will work with supplements and medication. Thank you
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I just discovered this, don't know if I'm delusional but it makes me very happy, How's that for a lure?
