Parkinson's could be otherwise (2).

[parkinsonshereandnow]

Officially, Parkinson's is still incurable in Western medicine.

Cases of possible cure or reversal of symptoms occur in very strong or highly motivated people (Robert Rodgers has collected numerous cases since 2004. His mother had Parkinson's). And in Hindu and Chinese medicine, it is considered a difficult disease to treat, but not incurable.

The same is said about Alzheimer's or Multiple Sclerosis, but there are doctors/neurologists who have called it into question: Seignalet, Bradesen, Newport, Swank, Wahls...

Many neurologists speak of a syndrome and some propose different therapies (Coimbra, Costantini, Birkmayer, Perlmutter). The cause would be multiple (and maybe impossible to know exactly). It must therefore be treated as something that is multifactorial, due to multiple deficiencies (Hinz speaks of 29)...

The Hindus and the Chinese created multi-modal and multi-phase treatments centuries ago. Their products and therapies (massages, acupuncture, movements) treat all possible routes of damage (detoxification, antioxidants, anti-inflammatory, liver protection, good nutrition, etc.).

The cause may persist (high stress sensitivity to stress, genetic aspects, etc.) or not (high stress stage already overcome, poor nutrition, etc.). Outside of current Western medicine, there are no incurable diseases. Difficult to treat/cure, yes, but not impossible. But we already know many antidotes: anti-stress magnesium, epigenetic measures, Mediterranean diet and phytotherapy, etc.

One can follow the orthodox Western path, the Eastern ones, a mixture of both (there are very interesting studies on madopar together with Chinese formulas), or the external ways of highly motivated patients (Freeman, Pepper, Coleman, Shifke). Whatever the choice, and with the supervision of a specialist, I would continue with a new lifestyle: Mediterranean diet or similar, green tea (with ginger and turmeric with a little black peppercorns), lion's mane mushroom, a daily salad, vitamin D3 supplement (together with magnesium and brewer's yeast), omega 3 fish pearls, physical exercise, acupuncture, etc.

AYURVEDA.

See planetayurveda.com. Parkinson's Formulas.

planetayurveda.com/library/...

- Observational clinical study with Ayurvedic medicine (Pathel 2018).

Pathel mentions cases who, after several months of treatment in two phases (purifying and symptomatic), moved from stage 3 to stage 1 on the Hoehn and Yahr scale. Measurements with the UPDRS scale were also significant. 16 patients reduced their symptoms from stage 3 to 1.5. Another 10 patients went from stage 3 to 1.

TRADITIONAL CHINESE MEDICINE.

And this other amazing one for TCM:

itmonline.org/arts/parkinso...

Some formulas backed by studies, either claiming healing results/significant improvements or anti-parkinson effects of their components: oxidation, inflammation, glutamate, parkinsonizing toxins, etc.

Zichan powder,

Yigansan formula,

Xifengzhizhan pills and capsules,

Zeng-xiao An-shen Zhi-chan 2 or ZAZ2,

Zishenpingchan granules (Ye 2021).

Liuwei dihuang or Liu Wei Di Huang Wan (Tseng 2014, Rehmannia Six Formula).

- 10 cases treated with Chinese medicine:

10 patients reportedly cured of idiopathic Parkinson's in not very advanced stages with use of Chinese herbal formula

Wang Weifang, published in the Journal of Brain and Neurology ten cases of possible (and controversial) cures over the last three decades, using Xifengzhizhan pills and Xifenzhizhan capsules.

These results were presented at the 7th International Conference on Brain Disorders and Therapeutics 2020, which took place in Prague, Czech Republic.

The main components of Xifengzhichan Pills are: Shudi, cornel meat, medlar, chrysanthemum, Ligustrum lucidum, Gastrodia elata, uncaria, polygonatum, asparagus, etc. The main components of Xifengzhizhan capsules are: white peony root, ejiao, turtle shell, cistanche deserticola, natural ground, radix scrophulariae, radix bidentata, etc.

Xifengzhichan Pills, 9 grams each time, three times a day; Xifengzhichan Capsules, 6 capsules each time, three times a day. Oral administration.

In other studies, it is referred to as "Xifeng Dingchan Pill" (XFDCP). For example, in:

Zhang (2013). Evaluation on the efficacy and safety of Chinese herbal medication Xifeng Dingchan Pill in treating Parkinson's disease: study protocol of a multicenter, open-label, randomized active-controlled trial.

Testing its efficacy alone and with Madopar.

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The guidance of a doctor and, if possible, a doctor trained in both Western and Oriental medicine is always recommended.

[MBAnderson]

Very interesting. It will take several days for me to digest it all. Do you have a link to Robert Rodgers work?

My problem with TCM is that I would have to subscribe to theories about liver wind & yin, etc. which I don't know if I'm ready for.

frontiersin.org/articles/10...

[parkinsonshereandnow in reply to MBAnderson]

Thank you, MBAnderson.

For me, the essential difference between Traditional Chinese medicine and Western medicine is that they use different languages. Traditional Chinese is more symbolic, metaphorical. The liver (hepatic encephalopathy, e.g.) and the kidneys - adrenal capsules (stress, cortisol, one of the two hydroxylations towards vitamin D3) can possibly explain Parkinson's in many cases.

In fact, the important thing is what works and with the least adverse effects.

Robert Rodgers' work is extraordinary, both in his books and blogs, and on his radio show with almost 300 interviews (Hinz, Mischley, Coleman, Pepper, Schifke).... blogtalkradio.com/parkinson...

and parkinsonsrecovery.com/

Thanks for the link. Truly interesting.

[House2 in reply to parkinsonshereandnow]

Ku Shen tea improved my PD symptoms better than anything including C/L

[Hidden in reply to House2]

Do you have a recommended source for it? I had not heard of it and so I just read about it. Thank you!

[House2 in reply to Hidden]

tcmzone.com/product/ts59/

[House2 in reply to House2]

Be careful, i had to stop it because it interfered with my BP meds. It helped more than anything for my PD however.

[House2 in reply to House2]

FYI pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?te...

[Hidden in reply to House2]

Bi polar? It is related to PD. Have you heard that? I can try and refind that info.

[ConnieD in reply to House2]

What kind of improvement have you had and how long have you had PD?

[House2 in reply to ConnieD]

Dx'd 2015, pretty much felt normal, unfortunately I have other health issues and some my meds conflicted with the Ku Shen. Very recently I was placed on blood thinners, had to stop all alternative supplements (which has me quite depressed)

[MBAnderson in reply to parkinsonshereandnow]

Thank you, here and now, for all these excellent resources. I stumbled across Mr. Rodgers several years ago, but somehow drifted away.

I posted about Zishenpingchan 4 years ago, but likewise not did follow up. Maybe follow-through is my problem.

healthunlocked.com/cure-par...

[Manypony]

I use TCM. Acupuncture, herbs, Tuina Massage, cranial sacral and mild exercise. I supplement against the wishes of my TCM practitioner who now is interested in glutathione supplementation. No C/L🙏🏼

[JohnPepper]

I notice you don't mention myname, John Pepper! I have not needed any Pd ,edication since 2002 and was diagnosed in 1992. Are you not interested in patients who have reversed thier symptoms?

There have now been two studies that have proved that sustained High energy aerobic exercise produces BDNF and GDNF, which repairs the damaged brain cells and the patient reverses the symptms. Are you not aware of them? The one is from the Mayo Clinic.

[parkinsonshereandnow in reply to JohnPepper]

Mr Pepper, there are two parts to my reply:

1) The first, in relation to your name appearing in this summary. I think that is fair. It is already corrected.

2) Rather than understanding your questions as hostile or sarcastic, I will understand them as rhetorical.

I know your name and your case quite well. I quote you often, but not always.

This last message focuses on oriental medicines, Ayurveda and Traditional Chinese Medicine. I know those studies and some others on the benefits of aerobic and many other types of exercise, Neurogenesis, neuroplasticity, autophagy, neurotrophic factors....

[JohnPepper in reply to parkinsonshereandnow]

I am not wanting specifically my name, it is of no interest, but 'Fast Walking' is the only way I know that has actually reveresed Pd symptoms. There may be aother aeribic exercises that are being done that have had that effect but I do not know about them.I am not selling anything, other than my book, which information about how to help onsself to reverse Pd symptoms. I am not selling a product to treat patients!