It looks like ChrisWF has left us.

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[ion_ion]

Probably he will be back with different nickname or he may already have one. I did not agree with him but I had nothing against him.

[ion_ion]

And by the way, as far as I remember you sounded like Chris in some of your past posts and wanted to leave the forum at a certain moment. I even apologized to you for daring to contradict you after you made public your intention to leave.

Maybe is just coincidence ... or maybe you are "virtual twin brothers".

Merry Christmas!

[Hidden in reply to ion_ion]

Yes, I remember your apology. You have a kind soul! Merry Christmas!

[beehive23 in reply to ion_ion]

yes, everyone with pd is manipulative and decietfull............

[Skydome]

Phew...! I never thought I’d quote George W. Bush, but ‘that was some weird s*** ‘.🙄

[beehive23 in reply to Skydome]

yes when your pd becomes advanced well all remember that it makes you a flakey wierd person.........LONG LIVE PD BIAS ...especially from those who arent shting the bed yet .........when you do well laugh at you..........live by the sword........die by the sword..........

[MarionP in reply to Skydome]

I remember when he said that, must have been GW's first psychedelics after his daughters brought some home. They were some real party animals, those girls. Now Jenna is a big TV star in her own right.

[Lilliwaup in reply to MarionP]

These are the type of comments that have turned me off to this site and stopped me from being engaged. I can turn on any news, late night shows or pickup any newspaper and read this kind of crap about either party. It needs to stay off this site!!!

[MarionP in reply to Lilliwaup]

No madam Lily, YOU STOPPED YOURSELF from being engaged, nobody "did it to you..."

See, in between the two acts of reading and being turned off, YOU INTERVENED, which is a CHOICE, A CHOICE YOU MADE rather than something that is done to you. It is a choice YOU exercise... without you in the process forcing or coercing something on others, which is wrong. YOU made a decision to be turned off...turning off was not an event in which you were a passive victim helplessly forced through a tube.

And that is all for the better, for then nobody else is forced into something BY YOU, censored by you, coerced by you...all of which are acts of moral assaults by you upon others.

Censoring is being told or made to shut up rather than you just turning off your hearing aids when you encounter something that YOU don't like. That means freedom for all.

You see, when you say something "turned" you off, that is not true, no act was not done TO you. You saw or heard, and then YOU DECIDED to be turned off. You turned yourself off, nobody did it to you, they couldn't, this is a print venue and nobody can force, because you are anonymous and thousands of miles away, anything on you. YOU performed an interpretation and then all on your own DECIDED you didn't like it. That's exercising free choice, is an act of your own, not someone else onto you. Take responsibility for it instead of telling someone else to curtail their freedoms to like or not like what they read YOU saying. Do not sit and simper looking for an excuse to blame another for YOUR choosing not to engage. It's just words on a page, after all. Nobody hurt anybody, for nobody can. For you to be hurt from words on a page requires you actively DECIDING to be hurt...which means it was always you, because it could only be you.

Do not try to force something YOU do (which you just did try to do, interpreting for them, and then deciding for them how they should feel) onto someone else (something they couldn't even actually do to you anyway, remember?...) You would just be forcing something on someone else what you don't want them doing to you. That's called the Golden Rule. It means you don't do unto others what you don't want done to you.

So though you might not realize it, trying to convince someone that they can control what you do and feel, when in truth only you can do that, is 1) just plain dishonesty,,,and 2) it is also an attempt to use your dishonesty to try to manipulate someone else, by trying to fool someone into going along that they somehow did something to you that only you could do. And you also try to get everyone else to see it that wrong way at the same time... even while you fail to hold that same expectation on yourself.

You can see that what I am saying is true. Because each of these two things I just numbered that you did, though probably you didn't realize it that way, is actually dishonest of you, one is a lie and the other is a manipulation. You want to be able to tell people what they can do or say? Buy the website, then it will be yours and you can rule in total power.

It is much better for freedom of speech, which we value greatly in THIS country, a democracy. You want to live in "1984"? Be my guest. All you have to do to be in total command of your world is turn off your hearing aids for a while and you are the king of your universe.

I am sorry you are turned off. But you did the turning off, not someone else. Saying otherwise is just as silly as saying someone 1,000 miles away just wiped your own arse for you, and did it wrong.

By the way, this is for anyone reading to get the idea, so don't take it personally, this is my way of showing everyone a better path. Kindness is great...it is also to a fair amount in the mind of the beholder.

Also, for you specifically, Lily: Get a sense of humor. Also a sense of proportion. As writer Douglas Adams once said about a married couple, "Have a sense of proportion! she used to say to him, 28 times a day."

Peace be upon you.

[Lilliwaup in reply to MarionP]

Once again, my point is we do not need politics on this site. How did your comment help anyone with this disease? Oh I know. Let's go back 12yrs and get upset about the Bush's. That will help.

[MarionP in reply to Lilliwaup]

Who is "we?" Is this your own website to decide what 1800 members on this forum need? Thank you for taking that on for all of everyone. Thank you thank you! Didn't know my needs were so badly needing better services, and from a stranger whom I have never known for even a minute yet. Such genius. Thank you!

You can go back and do that if you want to. I didn't see that happening. That was all inside your own head. Do you know the difference? (If you don't, it's called "projection," and if it gets out of hand turns into paranoia, and eventually psychosis).

What you need, and everyone else here needs, are two different things. Golly, maybe even more than 2.

Can you tell the difference between where you end and the rest of the people here begin? I didn't see politics, I saw a joke about a person, GW. Then I responded with my own little humorous advance.

It's just words on a page. YOU added and attributed the toxic meaning. Apparently without knowing that it was YOU doing that. But I didn't, I saw a bloke making a joke, about a man, not a party...and not about politics, but about his own particular foibles.

That's pretty different than what you percieved. Why? Are you quite well? Do you know yourself and where you are not someone else, or do you confuse yourself with other people? To get all upset about something like that, over-attributing something so narrowly and negatively, is not a good sign.

Beware mentally crowding out others, and reality, with whatever is brewing in your own head...or at least, try to know the difference...which is actually a rather critical mental thing you know. YOU are trying to tell everyone else what THEY need. You are trying to tell others what the meaning of life and reality is. The thing about projection...it can get to be too large for your own head, and then it can take over your whole world. Dangerous for mental wellbeing. For instance, you could easily mistake a green traffic signal for red one...especially if you made yourself color blind. Uh-oh. So it's really good to check and test out things first, before deciding your perception is all there is.

That's usually what we call "having boundary problems" of a deeply perceptual, even physiological nature.

When you are cold, do YOU put a coat on your dog, instead of yourself?

Allah be praised.

[Jennyjenny2]

👏 👏

[MarionP in reply to Jennyjenny2]

I'm sorry someone came at you the first day. That can be rough.

[NRyan]

Let's all take a lesson from this and just be kind.....even if you disagree with someone. Let's do so with respect. The world is such an ugly place on so many levels right now. Please....can we NOT be one of those levels? I am all for healthy debate, with civility. Wishing us all peace and health in 2021 and beyond.

[Jennyjenny2 in reply to NRyan]

Yes, point taken. 🙂

My initial response to this news was hooray, as I’d looked back on past responses by him and his seemingly misogynistic comments. I have been on the receiving end of one of his rants. I don’t often comment on threads as we all have enough on our plates without having to deal with negativity and being attacked verbally.

But upon reflection, I’ve started to feel sorry for Horace/ChrisWF as none of us know what turmoil is going on in his brain. He may have been a pleasant fellow at one stage and is now suffering from PD personality change.

Let’s hope that next year brings about more love and understanding for each other, whatever our views are, as we are all under strain and pressure, whether we have Parkinson’s or we are caring for our loved ones.

[beehive23 in reply to Jennyjenny2]

i was attacked verbally within a week on this site................

[Jennyjenny2 in reply to beehive23]

That’s horrible. Let’s hope that things will clean up a bit now...

[beehive23 in reply to Jennyjenny2]

it wasnt chriswf that did that to me.............

[NRyan in reply to beehive23]

Sadly, there is not only one challenging person in the world...or this forum. I'm sorry anyone treated you with disrespect here. I can imagine it was shocking and caused feelings of distrust, hurt, confusion, and sadness. I experience those feelings when I read the attacks by members. I will no longer be silent if I see an attack. I will speak up with respect. PwP can have cognitive changes and be brusk....I know I have challenges with that at times in myself when relating to my family. I feel terrible about it and am actively seeking how to be more calm and even-tempered. I apologize every time. Let's communicate and have empathy towards each other. Members on this forum are at varying stages of PD and thus affecting everyone differently. There is potentially lots of impact on cognition/emotional regulation in our group. Any victims on here also need to be self-aware as none of us are perfect. Empathy for others can help both parties in a conflict. It is easy to stay in a victim place, don't let that define you. Empower yourself and speak up with respect and empathy for the other member. You can know at the end of the day you are not a victim but instead a positive forum member that people have been helped by (even if just by example). I am not victim blaming...I have learned the first key to conflict resolution is self-awareness followed by empathy for your adversary. Perspective is 90%? of all problems. Thank you for your contributions beehive23 and jennyjenny2....I look forward to many more. Peaceful resolutions to all our conflicts in 2021. 😘

[rescuema in reply to NRyan]

Such a poignant thoughtful response. I'm beyond pleased to see you writing here again NRyan!

Merry Christmas to you all!!!

❤️