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My husband’s naturapath has just recommended hydrogen rich water

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I see it has been mentioned several times over the last year but I never saw those posts. Has anyone tried it?

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There is some animal model evidence that hydrogen is therapeutic so there may be something to this:

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LAJ12345 in reply topark_bear

Yes, sounds good, doesn’t it!

I just wondered if anyone here has tried it. I have seen machines priced anywhere from $500 NZ ($250USD) to $5000NZ! Not sure how different they are, if it works. They say it good for everyone for allergies , aging etc the list goes on. $500 if it helps is money well spent but are the cheap machines any good? My kids have allergies and asthma so it would be for the whole family. And $500 is just 3 months supply of some of the supplements!

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park_bear in reply toLAJ12345

The principle of operation such machines is really quite simple - all you need to do to create hydrogen – rich water is electrolysis – apply low-voltage direct-current between a couple of electrodes and the water molecules will split into hydrogen and oxygen:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elect...

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LAJ12345 in reply topark_bear

So you would think the cheap machines do the same job?

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park_bear in reply toLAJ12345

It is safe to say that hydrogen rich water can be created at very little cost. Whether there are any important differences between machines I am not in position to say not having seen the machines' specifications. However, I cannot imagine a justification for something costing more than $hundreds.

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LAJ12345 in reply topark_bear

That’s what I thought 😊.

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Jennyjenny2 in reply topark_bear

My naturopath has recommended for me a tablet called 'I LOVE H2', made by Akaway. It's an effervescent tablet containing mannitol, malic acid, magnesium, magnesium malate, magnesium fumarate and fumic acid. It could be a cheaper option?? Their website is alkaway.com.au . Could you please tell me your thoughts as I value your opinion. (I don't have PD but my husband does, and it's to help me with my chronic condition and low immune system. Not starting my husband on it as he has only recently started on HDT.)

Regards, Jenny

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park_bear in reply toJennyjenny2

It is possible it could work - it says it contains elemental magnesium, so the reaction would be something like Mg+H2O => MgO + H2.

I am not sold on this hydrogen idea because it is only supported so far by animal evidence, which does not correspond well to actual Parkinson's in humans, and I am not sure of the effects of all these ingredients. So I cannot go so far as to recommend this. If you do try it let us know how it works out,

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Jennyjenny2 in reply topark_bear

Appreciate your response...thank you!! Think I’ll give it a miss.

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ElliotGreen in reply toLAJ12345

I am researching this now. One relevant thing to look for is whether the machine separates gases. Look for ones labeled PEM. These will put the hydrogen gas from one electrode into the water, but send chlorine and ozone gas from the other electrode out of an exhaust.

These are said to cost US$100 or more.

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Jandeb

Like most supplements there aer a variety to select from as well as apparatus' that can make hydrogen rich water. It appears that the concentration of H2 in the water is where the differences in efficacy show up. I had been using Active H2 with no discernible results and recently ordered Rejuvenation effervescent H2 mlecular hydrogen water based on info on their website. It show a much greater concentrationof H2 in thewater from their tablets.

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LAJ12345 in reply toJandeb

Did you get any results from the second one?

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Rhyothemis

Haven't tried it, but I looked into DIY hydrogen water a while back:

youtube.com/watch?v=mJ1DeiD...

Purity of the Mg rods is an important point to consider.

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LAJ12345 in reply toRhyothemis

Thanks for this, interesting!

Wow, not sure I would have time to do this every day! And his wastage washing the rods in acetic acid must bump up the price, but very interesting. I think I would rather pay for a machine as I am a bit time poor with 3 kids and a puppy!

My naturopath is selling one for about $500 NZ dollars so I wonder how effective it is. Do the machines make water with magnesium compounds in them too or is it bubbled through pure water I wonder. I would be concerned if the purity is only 99.99% pure if the other .001% is arsenic, lead or mercury or worse! You would have to use food grade magnesium if there is such a thing.

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Rhyothemis in reply toLAJ12345

Yes, it seems like a PITA so I gave up on it. The machines are likely using electrolysis to generate the H2, but I could be mistaken. My concern about the machines is whether the H2 can be effectively contained. If it puts out a stream of water and you are supposed to just catch it in a glass and drink it - I would be very skeptical about actually getting any H2 into the body. When drinking the DIY H2 water from a beer bottle, one needs to be careful about sipping and capping, sipping-capping, etc. I thought about getting H2 in a tank from a welding shop and huffing it - that would probably work better...

Anyway, most of the clinical work has been done in Japan. Here's a review article:

Molecular Hydrogen as an Emerging Therapeutic Medical Gas for Neurodegenerative and Other Diseases

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

I often wonder how much of the Japanese (and Chinese, Korean, etc.) biomedical research gets translated / is accessible through PubMed. I thought about asking my offspring, who has studied Japanese for 3 years to check into it - maybe research a sample topic - but that's a bit much to ask a teenager who has no interest in science.

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LAJ12345

Yes, it might require a bribe😄

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