Is the lack of folic acid in Keto and Paleo diets the reason they are beneficial perhaps?

[LAJ12345]

This is a very interesting but rather long clip by Dr Ben Lynch about how bad folic acid is for the many people with a genetic mutation. My husband has the double MTHFR C677T one it turns out which can cause many diseases. I recommend you watch it as if you have this mutation it can have ramifications for your children and grandchildren too.

In about minute 59 near the end he mentions that both Keto and Paleo diets have little folic acid as they avoid most of the food which is fortified with folic acid. I wonder if the people benefiting from these diets have the methylation mutation? If so the short summary of this is throw away any supplements that contain folic acid or cyano cobalamin and make sure you are taking the methylated natural form of folate (L-methylfolate) and methyl and adenosyl cobalamin. Avoid any foods eg bread , cereal etc that are fortified as they will certainly be fortified with folic acid not the natural form.

youtube.com/watch?v=cWFPRI6...(Not working as expected?)

[park_bear]

Folate is required for cell division. Mature adults do not need very much – and excess folate can stimulate the growth of cancers. For more on the subject see:

Folate Supplementation Carcinogenic

tinyurl.com/ycdrz5lj

[LAJ12345 in reply to park_bear]

Yes but he is saying any tests done by doctors picks up all folate including folic acid. Even if not taking folic acid supplements almost all Americans have high levels of folic acid from fortified foods floating around in their systems but the doctor says their folate levels are ok whereas the actual methyl folate which is required inside the cells might be very low. Folate receptors are all bunged up by the synthetic folic acid as the receptors prefer to bind to folic acid rather than natural folate. Perhaps it is the lack of folate in cells that is causing the cancers?

[park_bear in reply to LAJ12345]

I agree with everything you said except that is not the lack of proper folate that causes cancer growth. Usable folate is exactly what cells need to multiply, whether they are normal cells or not.

[LAJ12345 in reply to park_bear]

I see. Would folate from Veges do the same?

[park_bear in reply to LAJ12345]

Folate from veggies is the same, but you are unlikely to get too much from that source. Your body does need some folate.

[jeffreyn in reply to park_bear]

park_bear,

This grab from the final paragraph of the article you linked to exactly matches the message from the video that LAJ12345 posted:

"The typical multivitamin supplement contains .8 mg of folic acid. For that reason I have dropped my multivitamin supplement. For now I am continuing my B complex supplement which contains .5 mg of 5-methyltetrahydrofolic acid (Methyl folate). Methyl folate is directly usable by the body as opposed to folic acid which has to be turned into methyl folate first. Circulating folic acid is not a good thing because it can take the place of methylfolate in folate receptors, but is inactive."

So the article is recommending folate supplementation, but using methyl folate rather than folic acid. That's the same message as the video, except the video recommends getting the methyl folate by eating leafy greens.

Jeff

P.S: The title of the article is misleading. A better title would be "Folic Acid Supplementation Carcinogenic".

[park_bear in reply to jeffreyn]

I wrote that article. Thanks for reading it and responding. Since writing it I have become convinced that any folate supplementation is unwarranted and dangerous and stopped taking methyl folate. I updated it accordingly.

The title is correct. All folate supplementation is dangerous because it promotes the growth of cancer. That is well supported by the research papers I cited in the article.

[jeffreyn in reply to park_bear]

So to summarize your position, folate supplementation is bad, but lots of leafy greens are fine.

I'm happy with that.

P.S: I'm mega impressed that you wrote that article.

[Dragona in reply to jeffreyn]

What is the best b complex to take please

[park_bear in reply to Dragona]

This is the one that I take:

amazon.com/gp/product/B003C...