Morning Everyone,
I've just been watching some people's video testimonials on the effects of BX Protocol for PD sufferers. They are all in USA.
Do we have it in the UK?
Does anyone know anything more about it?
Is it worth bringing it up at my next meeting with medical staff?
Is it expensive?
Thanks...
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Sorry mis-typed, meant <Parkinson.org>
Doesn't look like anything worth getting excited about.
Hi, M_rosew,
Had already checked on there beforehand. Nothing. Speaks volumes.
To me it is a scam. The treatment is exposing people to oscillating electricity based on Tesla.s research. No insurance will pay for it out of your pocket $16,000 plus or minus. Can't get in the USA.
freethoughtblogs.com/pharyn...
Beware
Thanks Bailey_Texas...
Prior to this posting (asking specifics about their therapy) I did not really look past the personal video testimonial(s) from the BX patients to see if it is real or not. Treating PD with a approach to treat mitochondrial dysfunction is quite logical but their 16,995$ up front is questionable, at best. The real question is whatever the relief these people are experiencing will last past the 2 year placebo window? If you were going to ask me what supplements you should combine to treat mitochondrial dysfunction I will tell you the following (and it will not cost 16,995$). In addition to an using extracts from green tea, etc.. in combination with mucuna pruriens derived levodopa to replace drugs like sinemet, I use most of the following supplements to treat PD mitochondrial dysfunction: Ubiquinol/PQQ/ubiquinone, NADH, NAC, acetyl l carnitine/alpha lipoic acid, vitamin K, magnesium (threonate), DHA & EPA omega 3s, methyltetrahydrofolic acid, methylcobalamin, astaxanthin and, of course, exercise. I choose astaxanthin because its antioxidant effect is 6,000 times stronger than vitamin C, 500 times stronger than vitamin E, 3,000 times stronger than resveratrol and quercetin. It is 75 times stronger than alpha lipoic acid - a powerhouse antioxidant. I have also experimented with all the forms of CoQ10 and concluded basic ubiquinone (which is cheaper) works just as well as ubiquinol or PQQ. Also, I use the (cheaper) precursor to NADH, nicotinamide/niacinamide.
NADH (& CoQ10....): ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...
PQQ: lifeextension.com/magazine/...
Methyltetrahydrofolic acid: www2.le.ac.uk/offices/press...
Vitamin K: sciencedaily.com/releases/2...
Omega 3s: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/249...
Astaxanthin: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/210...
Acetyl l carnitine/alpha lipoic acid: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/204...
NAC: sciencedirect.com/science/a...
Nicotinamide/niacinamide: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/194...
Methylcobalamin (don't take cyanocobalamin, its inferior): google.com/patents/US201501...
"Magnesium is an essential element in biological systems. Magnesium occurs typically as the Mg2+ ion. It is an essential mineral nutrient (i.e., element) for life and is present in every cell type in every organism. For example, ATP (adenosine triphosphate), the main source of energy in cells, must be bound to a magnesium ion in order to be biologically active. What is called ATP is often actually Mg-ATP."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magne...
Exercise: fitstar.com/high-intensity-...
Well as usual Rich, you have come up with a BRILLIANT response! I have this afternoon listened to your radio interview... now I have all the info written down here for me [which is a major plus point for me as I can't write] about the supplements.
Also I am interested in the magnesium deficiency that I might have [from a tongue analysis]...despite having regular epsom salt baths. I am contemplating going to an alternative health clinic we have close to where I live called 'Conscious Health'... so thanks again for the info on magnesium. AND thanks for my reading homework.
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It is my pleasure to disperse information to those it may help. I am really full of it...lol....and know allot about different supplements. When I was in my magnesium 'phase' I studied many different types and currently use 2: magnesium threonate and magnesium chloride. M. threonate was developed to enhance memory and deliver Mg to the central nervous system. It is better absorbed by 15 percent over 'better' forms of magnesium like magnesium gylcinate. Currently a trial is forming to study magnesium threonate's effect on dementia:
clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/...
PD patients have heavy metal toxicity and magnesium chloride, either in a liquid or flake composition, can detox metals and raise magnesium levels.
The following study noted that spraying MgCL on the skin and putting it in foot baths it simultaneously raised magnesium levels and showed evidence of detoxification (non-PD participants):
cnelm.com/NutritionPractiti...
Really, the liquid form of magnesium is best for applying to the skin and the flake form is good for foot baths.
In the following article the authors compared magnesium sulfate - Epson salts with magnesium chloride and they concluded:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/162...
In addition, magnesium chloride raises levels of DHEAS, the precursor of DHEA, and DHEA has positive effects on levodopa use. The following article was penned by Dr. Sircus and it explains the many functions that MgCl can effect. The DHEA section is at the bottom:
drsircus.com/medicine/magne...
The article about DHEAS and dopamine interaction:
And finally, if you raise your DHEA levels you raise your testosterone levels and (obviously in men) has been shown to effect PD:
Parkinson's in men may be linked to testosterone decline
medicalnewstoday.com/articl...
Sorry to throw additional information at you but Epson salts are good for muscular relaxation and do have uses in neurology but they have to be injected to make a real impact. Drs. inject Epson salts into women with preterm births to reduce risk of the motor disorder cerebral palsy. MGSO has been shown to decrease levodopa dyskinesias in apes (I think) but, once again, it was directly injected.
Best wishes and I have to go and do stuff.
Rich
Why do we have heavy metals toxicity? Is it possible to test specifically for this using hair analysis or something? I just can't see how I can have been exposed to heavy metals.
Let's just look at 1 of the heavy metals listed in the magnesium study: uranium. Nuclear technology was a utopian project with the same destructiveness as communism. It was claimed that nuclear was clean, efficient and safe. When I hear comments like this I want to duck and cover. World wide thousands of barrels of nuclear waste have been dumped in the oceans around here, there and everywhere. To make matters worse, the Fukushima meltdown is still dumping thousands of tons of irradiated water into the oceans and the technology does not exist to clean the mess up, so it will go on for (possibly) decades. Here is one example:
agreenroadjournal.com/2013/...
China is currently the smog capital of the world and much of it is derived from coal. Though more prosaic than nuclear, smog is a source of lead, arsenic, mercury..... and here is a pretty ugly list:
ucsusa.org/clean_energy/coa...
Being raised in Pittsburgh I experienced the end of America's heavy industrial era and there were times when the street lights (at 12 noon) resembled the moon on a cloudy night. I remember seeing the orange haze in the evening and smelling sulfur in the morning.
As for PWP the metals most listed as toxic are iron, manganese, copper, mercury and lead. Manganese is an easy one to figure out where it comes from. In the 20th century the rise and fall of urban violence is associated with the addition and deletion of lead as an anti-knock agent in gasoline. Fortunately lead was removed. Unfortunately a manganese anti-knock agent was added. High exposure to manganese is associated with a 78% increased risk of PD (and copper 11%).
source.wustl.edu/2010/11/po...
The neurotoxicant fluoride is in our pharmaceuticals, toothe paste and fertilizers. Here is a fluoride/Parkinson's disease test:
Neuroprotective activity of Matricaria recutita against fluoride-induced stress in rats.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/215...
If you want to read a harrowing study read Bernard Windam's paper on dental (mercury) amalgams.
"Mercury Exposure Levels from Amalgam Dental fillings; Documentation of Mechanisms by which Mercury causes over 40 Chronic Health Conditions; Results of Replacement of Amalgam fillings; and Occupational Effects on Dental Staff"
fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/daily...
Regretfully, we are are surrounded by environmental toxins.
Thanks for all that info
Magnesium has really helped me, stopping my left toes from curling over when I tried to sleep and bringing some relief to my rigid leg. I just take tablets that dissolve in water 2 hours before bed every night. Quite cheap and easy with no side effects that I know of.
$16000 sounds like robbery.
One of my issues is that I'm cautious about spending $$ loads of supplements that may not work (and have done so already). Do you definitely feel that these supplements have improved your health? How long have you had PD btw if you don't mind my asking.
Thanks
I take my RX meds and fish oil and i do great. Using large amounts of supplements is not a good idea (in my opinion) you just piss out most of them.
Suggest you get a Spectrcell test which will tell you what nutrients are in your cells, as opposed to in plasma. You could easily take supplements you don't need but PD patients and old people need so much to make up for their losses that they are usually on need. All those supplements mentioned above by silvestrov are worthy plus probably some others, depending on your biological needs.
You are a wealth of information, Silvestrov. Thank you.
Hi Beckey,
Seemingly, like all things that sound too good to be true, it's a load of bollocks!
If you want to check it out for yourself, simply type into You Tube ... "BX Protocol for PD", you might need to scroll down a bit to find the bit that refers to PD... Sorry.
Protocol supports hwp.
Parkinson's Protocol
Probiotic/ gut healing protocol 
Bolts Brainwave Entrainment Protocol
Wahls Protocol - anyone tried it?
