Limited Duration Therapies and MRD (Measurable... - CLL Support

CLL Support

23,336 members40,042 posts

Limited Duration Therapies and MRD (Measurable Residual Disease)

bkoffman profile image
bkoffmanCLL CURE Hero
27 Replies

Hi,

We are asking for patients and caregivers to participate in a survey which will help us learn about knowledge, attitudes, and preferences about MRD (measurable residual disease or minimal residual disease) and limited duration (also known as fixed duration) therapies. The goal of this survey is to learn more about what CLL patients know and really think so we can best serve help in the future through our nonprofits’ work. We would also hope to publish the results so that we can inform hematologists as the patient’s opinion on these matters and they don't rely on their intuitions. Please take a few minutes to help us complete this important work.

If you live outside the USA, please use this link: questionpro.com/a/TakeSurve...

If you live in the USA, please use this link: mrdld.questionpro.com

We hope to compare the two populations.

Thanks a bunch

Brian

Written by
bkoffman profile image
bkoffman
CLL CURE Hero
To view profiles and participate in discussions please or .
27 Replies
Red49 profile image
Red49

Great questions Brian. Where I live in Canada MRD testing is not done as part of treatment protocol...I hope this becomes standard practice in the future.

bkoffman profile image
bkoffmanCLL CURE Hero in reply toRed49

Me too. I know some sites in Canada do it. Thanks for doing the survey. It helps us. Hope to present at ASH next year.

J_88 profile image
J_88 in reply tobkoffman

Completed the survey Brian. I have not heard much about MRD in Canada either, i don't think it is common here, and I think it should be more common here. I think it is a great test to see where you are with your CLL, and help give you reassurance.

bkoffman profile image
bkoffmanCLL CURE Hero in reply toJ_88

Thanks. MRD should be moving into the clinic IMO.

DisneyMom profile image
DisneyMom

I also took the survey. I would love to know my MRD status, especially after completing FCR next week. But I'm also in Canada where they don't do MRD testing.

Carol 🇨🇦

country76 profile image
country76

Done

bkoffman profile image
bkoffmanCLL CURE Hero in reply tocountry76

Thanks

antonb profile image
antonb

I am in treatment with Ibrutinib (for 28 months good results ) my Dr says Ibrutinib do not achieve uMRD , anyway as i have been with Hb and hematocrit in the upper borders ( with a negative resukt for jak2 v617f mutation ) maybe in the future we will do a bone marrow flow cytometry , after all jak 2 and other genetic test for polyglbulia are finished ) hopefully i hope i don´t have both CLL+ Policitemia Vera ( have had no symptons at all on this one ).

AussieNeil profile image
AussieNeilPartnerAdministrator in reply toantonb

About 10% of the participants in an early Ibrutinib trial reached uMRD after 4 years of monotherapy. So while it is possible to achieve uMRD on BTK inhibitor monotherapy treatments, you really need a limited duration combination therapy to have a good chance of achieving uMRD and hence being able to cease taking drugs to manage your CLL while you enjoy a hopefully long remission.

Neil

bkoffman profile image
bkoffmanCLL CURE Hero in reply toAussieNeil

Agree

ClassyLady3 profile image
ClassyLady3 in reply tobkoffman

So if I am in the USA, on treatment with Acalabrutinib only, should I be asking my oncologist about treatments that could possibly bring me to MRD?

Are only trial participants being tested for this? What about us regular patients? Is the MRD testing a standard of care? Can it only be done at major treatment facilities? Like Chicago or New York or Boston?

bkoffman profile image
bkoffmanCLL CURE Hero in reply toClassyLady3

MRD can be done anywhere but is usually not relevant on monotherapy with Acalabrutinib

Zia2 profile image
Zia2 in reply toAussieNeil

But how do we pay for it if we are not in a trial!? :(

AussieNeil profile image
AussieNeilPartnerAdministrator in reply toZia2

I presume that those in the USA could ask their specialist to prescribe them a limited duration combination treatment off label? I appreciate that insurance cover would need to be negotiated, but I would also suspect that insurance companies would probably prefer to fund a year of combination treatment medication rather than indefinitely fund maintenance therapy at roughly half the cost. (After two years, the indurance company is better off.)

I'd be interested in replies from US based members who have accessed a limited duration combination treatment outside of a clinical trial. Some have mentioned switching from monotherapy or at least having discussed this with their specialist.

Neil

bkoffman profile image
bkoffmanCLL CURE Hero in reply toAussieNeil

The value of reaching MRD with adding therapy to BTKis is logical but unproven, unlike the case withe venetoclax and MRD.

Mprm profile image
Mprm

I took the survey and thought it was excellent. Very focused, and made me revisit my own preferences. I realize I would have answered differently a year ago before starting Ibrutinib, which has worked as expected. I was pushing for Venetoclax because it was limited, but now look at that as a future option for me. One huge issue was cost of long term therapy, but it turned out my insurance coverage is covering Ibrutinib. I’m glad that cost was part of the survey because that was a worry that was eating at me prior to starting therapy—and I couldn’t get a straight answer from my insurance company! My provider has never mentioned testing for MRD, but this is something I’d like to know at some point.

bkoffman profile image
bkoffmanCLL CURE Hero in reply toMprm

Thanks

ClassyLady3 profile image
ClassyLady3 in reply toMprm

Neither has mine.

Newdawn profile image
NewdawnAdministrator

Completed. Well constructed questionnaire.

Newdawn

bkoffman profile image
bkoffmanCLL CURE Hero in reply toNewdawn

Thanks.

Awksom profile image
Awksom

Did the survey, I’m on Z,O and V.

bkoffman profile image
bkoffmanCLL CURE Hero in reply toAwksom

Thanks

bennevisplace profile image
bennevisplace

Done (UK, FCR)

bkoffman profile image
bkoffmanCLL CURE Hero

Thanks

ClassyLady3 profile image
ClassyLady3

I took the survey. No one has told me about MRD status except for you today and the posts on this blog😮

Sushibruno profile image
Sushibruno

Done.

bkoffman profile image
bkoffmanCLL CURE Hero

Thanks.

Not what you're looking for?

You may also like...

Help the CLL Society find out what CLL patients & caregivers know and still "yearn to learn" about MRD testing + Limited Duration Therapies

CLL Society 2020 Patient Survey: Help the CLL Society find out what our CLL patients and their...
bkoffman profile image
CLL CURE Hero

Dr. John Allan - Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia (CLL) Patients @Undetectable Measurable Residual Disease (MRD) after Ibrutinib Plus Venetoclax

ASH 2022: Dr. John Allan on Outcomes for Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia (CLL) Patients with...
lankisterguy profile image
Volunteer

Measurable residual disease (MRD) status predicts Progression Free Survival (PFS) for patients with Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia (CLL)

Measurable residual disease (MRD) refers to the presence of disease at low levels not detected...
AussieNeil profile image
Partner

Move over MRD Negative and make way for uMRD - Undetectable Minimal Residual Disease

As Dr Brian Koffman mentioned here: https://healthunlocked.com/cllsupport/posts/141000734/eha part...
AussieNeil profile image
Partner

Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia Therapy Guided by Measurable Residual Disease

From the New England Journal of Medicine 10th December 2023 "The CLL treatment landscape has...
Jm954 profile image
Administrator