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Breakthrough in Cardiovascular Disease - Cause and Cure Explained by Dr. Rath.

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Doctors cannot explain certain things about the current theory of CVD - one of them is why fit, athletic people get clogged arteries or suffer sudden heart-attacks.

This video presentation will provide a new perspective on CVD which might explain some inconsistencies in the currently accepted view. Cholesterol levels and certain micronutrients are inversely correlated which if understood can allow you to address your CVD without prescription medications such as statins.

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There are many video clips and links in this forum!

It takes time and effort for many people to get to identify information from video clips and links.

What is the cause and cure for CVD in a nutshell, if there is one?

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sos007Ambassador in reply tosandybrown

How many other people post 'the cause and cure of heart disease' - do you think this might be worth spending time on?

Nutshell - cause - mechanical stress - solution - high dose micronutrients.

Watch the video.

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Stu888

Hi SOS thanks for this post. It was a very interesting presentation and makes sense. Do you know if any further studies have been published based on Dr Rath's animal model and hypothesis? Also it would be good to know exactly what micronutrients that the 51 year old mentioned in the study who showed plaque reversal took during the year long program if you know this? I had a mild MI and have CHD at age 46 despite never having smoked, always eaten low saturated fat, and excercised regularly so fit the bill of making the old causes of CHD as questionable. Also my total cholesterol was always approx 5 so has never been high!

I will begin taking 1000mg Vitamin C daily but maybe there are other nutrients that are also beneficial that you may be able to advise on for my benefit and others?

Many Thanks again and Best Regards.

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sos007Ambassador in reply toStu888

The Linus Pauling Protocol is what Rath's research is based upon. Pauling recommended for those with diagnosed CVD to take 6,000 mg of Vitamin C and Lysine spread throughout the day. I'm currently up to 4,000 per day of each. As noted in a previous post, my blood tests immediately reflected the benefits at just 3,000 mg of each per day.

Pauling also recommends:

Vitamin A, B12, D, lysine, proline, and E.

I personally take the following:

B3 (niacin 600 mg), B6, B9 (folate), C, D (2,000 IU), E (400); Turmeric (900 mg); CoQ10 (375); Lysine, Proline;

I also take a teaspoon of True (Ceylon) cinnamon in my beakfast tea. Cassia cinnamon can cause hepatitis in such a dosage so make sure you get the Ceylon cinnamon.

I'm on a plant based diet, but have 2-3 meals of fish per week, 1 or 2 meals of lean chicken breasts, and have Greek yogurt and feta daily. I also eat nuts and blueberries daily. Check my other posts under 'Coming Off Statins update October 17, 2017. You can message me directly if you have any other questions.

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No other studies to the best of my knowledge. Establishment is not eager to disprove current theory with $40 billion dollars in annual sales of statins and bypass surgery being the most profitable to hospitals. 50 years of reinforcement of cholesterol theory is not easy to reverse. Don't expect easy or immediate acceptance of this alternative viewpoint. Try it for yourself and see the results. One warning, if you have reduced kidney function or high ferritin (iron) levels in your blood, high dose Vitamin C may cause problems. Otherwise, it is non-toxic even in massive doses over 10,000 mg per day. Bowel intolerance is the only limiting factor. Every person has a different tolerance but most people can easily tolerate 6000 mg. IV vitamin C treatment is even more effective. You can also buy ascorbic acid (vitamin C) in powder form, mix with water and baking soda and drink it. Pauling himself took 18,000 mg per day starting at age 69 or so and lived to age 93. His advise was to avoid sugar and to avoid being overweight. No more than 3 oz. of animal protein per day.

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sandybrown in reply tosos007

If one is allergic to Vit C as it gives blocked nose, is there an alternative?

I appreciate that we can get Vit C from fruits and other veg and food.

The problem is now sugar in fruits.r?

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Naturopaths doctors will administer very high doses of vitamin C directly into the blood stream and bypass the metabolic process which may address the allergic reaction. You can call a naturopathic doctor and inquire.

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Allergic reactions may also be caused by deficiencies in other vitamins. B-complex vitamins such as B3, B6, B9, along with others may be playing a role in all allergic sensitivities that people endure. Linus Pauling in his book 'How to Live Longer and be Healthy' addresses allergies. You should get the book.

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Stu888 in reply tosos007

Hi SOS, Thanks for your response. I too have changed my diet, probably eat 10 portions of oily fish a week but aware of the contaminants issues. I also do a very low carb diet but snack on dry roasted almonds and pistachios. I will try starting with 1g Ascorbic acid tabs and see how I go. For me and many others because of the fear factor I am sticking with my Atorvastatin 40mg but am not convinced statins are any solution to CHD.

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Medical authorities have established 2,000 mg of vitamin C as being safe, so you can start at 2,000 and work up from there. Get a blood test one month after doing this consistently and see the impact on LDL. You should request a measure for Lp(a) as well during your blood test. That is the atherogenic component of LDL not the LDL-C measure itself.

An equal dosage of the amino acid supplement 'Lysine' is also required for the treatment to be effective. Equal to the dosage, of Vitamin C.

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Berthold in reply tosos007

There is discussion of micro-nutrients and high dose C might not now be an optimal choice.

shop.dr-rath.com/en-us/all-...

shop.drrath.com/

dr-rath.com/pdf/brochure_en...

with the store offerings one wonders about the open source non-profit idea of sharing the science and latest discoveries with the public mentioned in the video or it needs more funding by selling products. Did you notice the large diamond ring she wears.

Also high dose fish oil may also present a problem but I know an APOE3/4 who is lean and taken 600mg CoQ10 so it is possible that the 3G/day of fish oil he takes and told me it took a month to get his LDLP# down and small particles low so he may have activated an epi-gentic pathway from possibly exercise as that involves >4000 switch points that might silence negative traits? but generally high fish is negative for at least those just starting who have Lp(a).

podcastnotes.org/2018/08/02...

and taking 500mg niacin liver enzymes and homocysteine and MTFR mutations also need to be checked for methyl depletion.

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this is an old study but still relevant as this old story starting at around 18:00 about Pritikin

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Here is another epigentic explanation related to diet change. Age also seems a factor as I'm in the 7th decade.

lmreview.com/omega-3s-apoe-...

Where in Canada can one get advanced lipid testing?

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Wow! That's a lot of info. I'll need time to review.

Lifelabs and Dynacare Labs both offer advanced testing at a cost.

Dynacare is the only one that will offer the NMR Lipoprofile test which they actually refer to a US lab, so the results take 2 weeks to return.

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I did not find the discussion on vitamin C. The links for Dr. Rath's products did not contain a discussion.

Dr. Rath's products are nothing more than multivitamins with fancy descriptions. A Mediterranean Diet with some supplements from any reputable company will suffice.

I have already heard the Dr. Peter Attia podcast - I'm a regular listener of his podcasts.

I reviewed the slide presentation from Berkeley Labs - I had already seen that and it confirms what I have learned elsewhere - LDL-P and particle size and density are more important than LDL-C.

I already knew the Pritikin story but it was still interesting nonetheless and thank you for the link.

The final link on omega-3s is based on old data. New research shows Alzheimer's Disease is not linked to beta amyloid plaques as a cause. Instead it is now considered a vascular disease and is being described as Type 3 diabetes.

As such the protocol to avoid AD is the same as other vascular diseases - avoid sugar, and simple carbohydrates and exercise daily. It takes 20 years after the initiation of AD in the brain before symptoms appear.

It is never to late to change diet and lifestyles due to neuroplasticity.

Click on this link: peterattiamd.com/richardisa...

and this one: medicalnewstoday.com/articl...

Thanks for your information. I appreciate your effort.

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Berthold in reply tosos007

I just reviewed all the recent omega-3 which some seem to say it is ok to supplement an APOE4 but when you read the details they are all inferring from other studies which have drawn conclusions from other studies with similar inferences with no direct evidence. I also listed to Dr podcast which I also heard about and thank you for it. What he actually says about omega3 is that the problem is with DHA and none of the previous studies are done correctly and define what is actually going on! Here is the latest on the subject which explains the observational contradictions. Age is also mentioned as a problem or complicating factor.

fasebj.org/doi/10.1096/fj.2...

As the doctor said it is very hard to generalize as there are so many genetic variations on how to fight the disease that it is going to an difficult battle for each of us. Thanks for opinion and sharing your suggest.

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Thanks for your reply. In the meantime, based on the link your provided, it appears as though those with ApoE4 need to eat more fresh fish (wild caught - limited to 2-3 meals per week) rather than rely on Omega 3 fish oil supplements. As previously noted though, the primary source of defense is the avoidance of sugar and a low carb diet, along with daily exercise.

Good luck.

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10 portions a week of fish is excessive. The heavy metal contamination in fish is carcinogenic. Have 2-3 portions and have fish oil pills instead. Learn to eat beans, chick peas, and lentils as alternative proteins. You can also have egg white omelettes, nuts, nut butters, plain Greek yogurt and vegetable protein powder as sources of protein in place of fish. If the CVD theory in this video is correct then your diet may not have to be as restrictive. Pauling recommended no more than 3 oz of animal protein per day, that includes fish. That means 7 meals per week of animal protein. He also did not discourage moderate egg consumption.

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Stu888 in reply tosos007

Hi thanks for your feedback. I am relooking at my nutrition as I knew fish products can be contaminated with heavy metals and PCB's. I just panicked when diagnosed with an MI and CHD and have just overdone the fish in my diet.

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Stu888 in reply toStu888

Hi SOS, Just saying thanks for your advice and have bought the book How to live longer..... By Linus Pauling. I'm only up to chapter 5 and it reiterates all the theories about saturated fat intake not being linked to CHD, rather that sucrose is the main villain. It is disappointing that the message of switching away from saturated fats to polyunsaturated fats was known from studies before the 1980's not to lower CHD rates yet that message was marketed well into the last decade as being healthy!

In my case I suspect that over consumption of crisps cooked in "healthy" polyunsaturated sunflower oil coupled with hereditary high blood pressure are to blame for my CHD.

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Hi Stu,

Glad to hear you picked up the book. Key is to start on the Linus Pauling protocol and to eliminate simple carbs from your diet.

Read my last 2 major posts for updates on other modifications I've made.

healthunlocked.com/choleste...

healthunlocked.com/choleste...

Good luck.

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Cassiejo

Very interesting video thank you.

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sandybrown

Thank you for your reply.

Allergy is a difficulty subject to address. This link with the video clip is very good, the power points are excellent. Company CE is mentioned, I know of GE Medical who make medial equipment.

Like statin, allergy medication has its side effect on top of helping and it is also for life.

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chlorophyle

Thank you for posting this video. It led me to further reading and a reconsideration of "supplements" as an addition to my paleo diet.

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