High total cholesterol after a statin break

Please don't resume taking the statins, they are no good for anyone and there are many other ways of keeping your heart healthy (Notice I don't say 'of reducing cholesterol', because high cholesterol is not a bad thing!).

Please read these links for a start, for the truth about statins.. healthscams.org.uk/statins-...

healthscams.org.uk/are-stat...

That's a very sobering family history to take into account when considering your response to medications.

How much of a rise is this in your TC and LDL levels, and how rapidly did it happen after you stopped the statins? (Please ignore this if it feels intrusive.)

Please consider WFPB NO OIL DIET see YouTube Dr Esselstyne

I am a bit like you - I am extremely fit ( not only for my age but when compared to many others much younger than me). Now has been the first time in 30 years for me that I have got my cholesterol levels down to those recommended. This has absolutely come about from my taking a low dose Crestor statin - 5mg. As far as I am concerned - the "proof of the pudding is in the eating" , this statin has not caused me any problems at all. In fact very recently I went on a cruise for 9 days and forgot to take the pills with me so I couldn't take them - started back on them upon my return. Didn't notice any difference either way.

Can you give a typical days diet/eating habits. Also the measurements you have cited only give you a small picture of risk. Get some tests to find out your

Oxidised LDL

APO B

APO A

Lp(a)

CRP

I have a similar family history I also have had bypass surgery, prior to this I was on statins (atorvastatin) for 15 years. My cholesterol figures were similar to yours, I did not go back on statins my total cholesterol is less than 6 my triglycerides are less than 1 and I am losing weight and I am not doing enough exercise. If you look on Youtube there are a number of lectures by an assistant professor Ken Sikaris who explains the cholesterol numbers and what causes heart disease.

The numbers you should be looking at are TC/HDL-1 this is the non HDL cholesterol and Triglycerides, the risk assessment done by doctors no longer use LDL (this is a calculated figure which is not always accurate).

The way I have achieved this is by going on a Low Carb High Fat diet, the triglycerides come from sugars and carbs that you eat. Eat eggs dairy butter, cook with Lard dripping and goose fat, do not eat margarine and little man made oils. It is not cholesterol consumed or manufactured by your body that causes heart disease but damaged cholesterol this damage is caused by glycation, smoking and inflammation.

If you look at the statistics produced by the ONS on mortality for either "all cause", or CVD there has been no significant change in the gradient since the introduction of statins, there has been a steep change in gradient since people have cut down or stopped smoking.

Please make these lifestyle changes and have tests for blood sugars and inflammation going back on statins will not solve the underlying problem.

For those of you who are still concerned about statins this is an interesting read = peoplespharmacy.com/2017/04...

We must all make up our own minds about medications of course but i have an awful feeling that statins could well be a future disaster waiting to happen. Personally i steer clear of them because i try to live in as close to a natural way as possible and they are certainly not natural compounds.

Hello weee, the Late Surgeon Captain T.L. Cleave FRCP never accepted any connection between disease and genes; he was proved to be right about everything else he suggested. If your cholesterol level has risen it may well be due to the body having some repair work to do; this could be internal. Cholesterol is a repair tool carried by the blood and if you a short of it the body will manufacture more. Injury can be caused by sugar and also homogenised milk - most supermarket milk is homogenised. Raw, whole, unpasteurised milk is preferable.

An article written by a Heart Surgeon could provide some explanation to heart conditions so have a look at: healthscams.org.uk/heart-su... The same site also has a page about saturated fats and another on seed oils. I found them listed on the home page. I think you may find the explanations useful. All the best Tibbly.

Sorry to hear that the diet didn't do what you wanted Weeee. Hopefully there will be one among the several statins available that will suit you.

Thank you all for your replies... I'll go back on the atorvastatin and maintain my good lifestyle and diet and try to improve it further...( I could lose a stone and am overly fond of pop corn )

I do not want to have a heart attack or stroke.. So am trying to be sensible...

The real controversy is not about Statin lowering cholesterol....it does. I tried the same experiment. Stop-and-see. The raging debate is about the role of Cholesterol in blocking the arteries. Many say there is no clear link. Some say even Saturated Fat is not the issue. Sugar is. It is complicated. If the inner walls of the arteries become inflamed due to Oxidants, then the scars act as anchoring points for the plaque which deposit and ultimately block the artery. What we need to to focus on is Blood Glucose and Anti-Oxidants. Still learning.........