Fib F3 .

[harrytoliv]

How long does it take to progress from F3 (12.8kpa)to F4 when you are having a few drinks a week. Like 7 to 8 glasses of red wine .

[Roy1955]

About 30 seconds if one of those drinks tips your liver into cirrhosis!

It only takes one drink but you don't know which one it will be.

It's the first drink that destroys your liver not the last one.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE FIRST ONE THERE IS NO LAST ONE!!!

[harrytoliv in reply to Roy1955]

So what I understand from you is we don't know which is going to be the unfaithful one.

[harrytoliv in reply to harrytoliv]

The 1 st or the 1000th

[harrytoliv]

Well what did he tell you then

[harrytoliv]

That is obvious. But you don't know which session is. May be the 100th , may be not.

But then ur not giving urself a chance to recover.

[harrytoliv]

Well don't know that.I found out 5 months a go.

And went off for 2 months.

[harrytoliv]

Got it. Shall stop immediately

[bcsurfer]

I think the bigger question in all harsh honesty, is "how long is it going to take you to realise that stopping drinking is your only option?" Your circumstances do not allow for any dillusion that there's some way to navigate around your problem.

Sometimes standing back and honestly ask yourself, what advice you would give to someone else asking exactly the same question is a good way of reaching clarity.

The answer to the question lies in two words, STOP NOW.

[harrytoliv]

Thanks for everyone's support. Shall act on ut yesterday

[Hidden in reply to harrytoliv]

I am 8.9 kp and I wouldn't dream of buting a drink to my lips ever and i liked a drink but i like living more cop on. .

[juneblue]

The physicians in the hospital told me that one more drink could be the one that caused the permanent damage. After discharge had a full recovery. A month later started drinking again. They were right. Been an uphill battle ever since. Please take care of yourself and stop drinking. Gods bless.

[harrytoliv]

Drinks r gone forever

[Castal]

Love your decision harrytoliv, that's brilliant!

Disclaimer - only joined this site 'cos I have suspected gallbladder problems so I know nothing about liver disease as such. However, I have been on a drug called Methotrexate for 13 years for Inflammatory Arthritis. It's hard on the liver. Cried myself to sleep the first time people came round and the wine was off-limits for me. I feared I would never even be able to crack a joke in company again! But you get used to it, believe me and your 'social self' readjusts. And despite all these years of Methotrexate my liver is in pretty good shape according to blood tests.

I'm also convinced that 7 - 8 glasses of wine is enough to make even a healthy person feel below par over time as they get older so in a way the absence of the stuff is like medicine!

[Pinkglitter93]

I don’t drink alcohol and mine progressed. 12.8 is not far off early stage Cirrhosis if fatty liver. You don’t want to look back and regret those wines. Your liver is struggling and needs a complete rest.

[harrytoliv in reply to Pinkglitter93]

Yes I agree , I have thrown all my bottles out. No more

[Oldbits]

I glad that you have chosen to stop. You'll have good and bad days , but keep going the benefits out way the small pleasures of a glass of wine. Did you know....'Alcohol consumption is the third most important cause of health impairment worldwide, with 5.3% of all annual deaths due to its excessive use. Approximately 43% of the population over 15 years of age consumed alcohol in the last 12 months, indicating an early life risk of death and disability due to this cause (World-Health-Organization, 2018).'

[harrytoliv in reply to Oldbits]

What do mean by Good days and bad days. . Thx for the encouragement. Healthwuse nothing wrong with me at the moment.

Have done a 360 change in my life style.

I need the fibrosis out of my way.

[Oldbits in reply to harrytoliv]

My husband had trouble stopping the drink and often got tempted to start again. Good days (socializing)bad days at work or in general, that glass of alcohol looks mighty tempting. It's a whole mind set thing. Glad you're doing ok. You'll get there .

[harrytoliv in reply to Oldbits]

I agree with u , but now there is no way of temptation. Need to be fine before e I even try it

[harrytoliv]

I got my blood reports all are normal.My cholesterol is the issue . LFT is super.

[0range5520]

It’s a good idea you’ve decided to stop as you can never tell how alcohol affects your liver and everyone is different. I have never drank alcohol and yet I have cirrhosis (NAFLT) with normal BMI. I don’t know where I would be if I had drunk. It’s better to be safe.