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Fibrosis F3 ,12.8kpa

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I have been diagnosed with the above 4 months ago. Has high enzyme levels.

2 months all back to normal

I have been drink 2 glasses of red everyday still.whats the chance of it getting worse.

I have changed my diet and lost wait

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Sophia1968

I personally think you are asking for trouble, please take these figures seriously and turn it around while you still can ….

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Sophia1968 in reply toSophia1968

Sorry my reply looks abrupt, but I do not know enough to comment, others on here really know their stuff, I just know I would have been grateful to have had those figures and would do my utmost to put it right , which is possible …. Losing weight and changing your diet is good, if you can ease off the wine as well I’m sure it would help immensely x

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Pinkglitter93

Is your bloods back to normal or fibro score back to normal? My fibrosis is high (told I have cirrhosis) but my bloods are now normal. Blood aren’t an indicator. This is without drinking alcohol. Cut out alcohol, eat fresh foods. You don’t want this to get worse.

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harrytoliv in reply toPinkglitter93

My blood is back to normal I am F3 12.8kpa

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AnxiousPete in reply toharrytoliv

The advice for anyone with a liver condition is stop all alcohol. It will damage your liver further. Have you had other tests ( gastroscopy or ultrasound) and have you been referred to a consultant hepatologist

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harrytoliv in reply toAnxiousPete

Yes have had ultrasound , Well I have been told

No more drinks and sugar

No red meat.

Exercise and there is hope for 100 percent reversal.

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DB50 in reply toharrytoliv

It’s not a good idea to take individual readings in isolation. Mine was 12kPa when last measured a couple of years ago, which suggests F3 with alcoholic aetiology, ‘not quite’ cirrhosis. My bloods are not just ok, they are spot-on. However, ultrasound confirms coarsened liver texture, CT suggests portal hypertension and I have one gastric varix.

I went into hospital just in May 2019 with acute alcoholic hepatitis, following a bender lasting several weeks – can’t remember exactly how long - after my marriage broke down, and many years drinking too much, mainly beer in the evenings.

As well as hepatitis, which resolved itself after some months of abstinence, I was told I had/have underlying cirrhosis. I gave up completely in 2019 and life is so much better without it. I never would have believed I’d say this one day, I always liked a drink in the evenings, but it really is, it’s not just the preaching of a convert. Much of it was habit, and to some extent knowing that something might have been amiss but not wanting to admit it to myself. Now, if somebody told me that I could start again tomorrow I wouldn’t.

Some of the poor souls who I shared a ward with had obviously been there before for the same thing, according to my (ex-) wife. I didn’t really notice, since I was a bit ‘out of it’ at the time through encephalopathy, at least for the first few days. Some time after this, my consultant said he thought I was on what he called ‘the slippery slope’. Thankfully, I wasn’t.

I feel I’ve been given a second chance. Please, please take yours and give up alcohol if you can, before it’s too late. Ask for help, if you need it.

Good luck,

Richard

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larkat99

F4 is cirrhosis. Please note that you can have normal blood with cirrhosis too. Your F3. So, I don't believe anyone here will tell you it's okay to continue to drink. Low fat diet, cut the sugars, and exercise will help and possibly reverse the fibrosis.

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harrytoliv in reply tolarkat99

I am F3 not 4 .

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harrytoliv in reply toharrytoliv

Thx for the tip. So there is a good chance to reverse it ?

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AnxiousPete in reply toharrytoliv

Unlikely to reverseif you continue to drink alcohol

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larkat99 in reply toharrytoliv

You said that in your post that your F3. I didn't know if you knew the next step in Fibrosis, F4, is cirrhosis.

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Roy1955

Chances of it getting worse are 99% certain if you continue drinking alcohol!Your probably looking for all the excuses/reasons why your OK to continue drinking but your well on your way to cirrhosis.

I did the same, won't happen to me.

It did!

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mozlaw

i was the same but tried not to drink at all there were lapses including my daughters wedding and my score came down from 13.4 to 11.8 .this was for a year in response to being told i was in danger of getting early cirrhosis I m having another year of going weeks /months without drinking.you need to give your liver a break so stop drinking for significant periods having no alcohol.losing weight is good.good luck

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