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Calling all fatty livers

Dr death ( i always feel like I've only got weeks to live after every visit) sent me for a fibroscan today. The reading of it was 9.3. Shall i write out my will or do cartwheels of joy. Type 2 diabetes reading is 44. Do not drink much but i eat copious amounts of lovely food.

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It does Like lovely food....I would just eat less of it! Just kidding.... 9.4 fibroscan means adviseable to make some changes. Reducing weight drinking less exercising more the usual stuff. I wouldn't get a downer on that though.

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Thanks so much. I thought uou were going to say that. Went out this morning at 5 ( so as not to frighten neighbours) and walked with weights. Id like to say i enjoyed it but my mum told me never to lie. I do go to keep fat ( typo intended). Twice a week but thats more for the girlie chat and delicious lunch ( oops) afterwards. No doubt there will stern words from dr death. Imagine going into headmasters office to be told off. Its like that. Might put on school uniform. Oh no couldnt do that. Too fat! Haha

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I'm quite impressed you were sent for a fibroscan-most people have to go private....why as that were there blood anomalies?

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Um yes there were blood issues in my annual diabetic review. I didnt realise fibroscans were unusual. Im obv very lucky living in bham with the queen elizabeth hospital close by. I also have proteinuria. Thanks so much for your interest.

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Fibroscans seem to be par for the course in my part of Scotland but for PBC. Have one every year while attending my annual review and bloods.

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good to hear-not south of the border sadly...

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Love your attitude and words, no idea on Fibroscan figures, moderation is the name of the game I guess. I would go for the cartwheels of joy myself. Did my will before transplant!

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Oh thanks so much for your reply. How is the transplant going? I hope its giving you a new lease of life. Gail

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Thanks, transplant doing well. only "complaint" is fatigue, I am told this is from PBC that was the initial cause of liver problem..... very happy to be here talking with you!

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Right im going to look up pbc this very minute. You can tell im a fatty liver novice! Im glad things are going okay

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you might want to look at 5:2 diet-very efficacious. 2 days semi-fasting-5 days eat normally works for a lot of people-I lost 9 kgs in 6 weeks

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Really? Thats amazing. Im on to it right now. Thanks

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Hi Gail, welcome aboard.

Whilst there is no immediate need to go ordering your 'box' you do have appear to have some risk factors for NAFLD (Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease) and whilst you enjoy your lovely food and some booze together with a hint of type 2 diabetes it would be worthwhile looking at your lifestyle and seeing where you can make some positive changes.

Fatty liver disease is on the increase in the Western World owing to our rubbish diet, lots of processed foods, lots of fats, sugars and salts and many of us carrying just that little bit too much weight. For too long doctors have sent patients away with a 'it's just fatty liver' message, howver, fatty liver is not harmless. Fatty liver is damaging to your liver and over time as the liver tries to repair the damage it fills the liver with fibrous tissue to try and heal itself but sadly the fibrous tissue also leads to damage of liver cells so untreated fatty liver can over time become fibrotic and eventually cirrhotic. I don't know how the scoring system for fibroscan works out a reading for fatty liver but a reading of 9.3 might suggest your liver is already showing signs of hardening.

The British Liver Trust has a page all about NAFLD and how to manage it going forward. As others have said some degree of adjustment or moderation needs to be attempted in order to prevent your liver from becoming even more damaged. Fatty Liver is fortunately reversible with a sensible diet, exercise and care.

Page is at :- britishlivertrust.org.uk/li...

Look after yourself.

Katie xx

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Wow katie thank you so much. Id rather come to you for a consultation than DrDoom. As ive said already my GP frightens me and implies that this is all my fauult. But before the menapause i was always skinny and at the gym.

Although im a joker ive alwAys eaten well but somehow the weight just piled on. Now im over 14 stones. ( or maybe 13 stone 12 on a certain spot on the carpet)

i think we should lobbythe nhs to stop supermarkets filling half of their aisles with useless sweets chocolates every bread and alcohol known to man. Honestly why are they allowed to torture us in this way?

Or perhaps i should be forced to wear a plaque that i cant take off that says " DONT LET THIS LADY HAVE ANY CARBS CHOC ETC". Perhaps we should have TROLLEY POLICE.

Seriously it might just work.

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maybe they should adopt plain packaging and warning labels on junk food it just taxes the body without any nutritional benefit. Hence the term empty calories instead of converting this crap into energy it is stored as fat. Chin up.

Its all in your hands (pun intended) no offence intended neither.

FisherKing1

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Oh thanks. Er i think. Im always cheerful. Whats a fatty liver between friends?

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btw fatty liver is not caused by fat-normally excess of carbohydrates be it in cake /bread /alcohol form....cut those down-lose some weight and more exercise and you'll literally be in good shape.

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That would be it. Thanks so much.

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I also love my food, I've put on 20 kg's (3 stone) since transplant two tears ago. That's not good because of the increased chance of diabetes, heart disease, and blood pressure from the immunosuppressants.

So last week I started the 5:2 or fast diet. In a week and a half I've lost 2 kg's so it seems to be working. There are also some reported health benefits of fasting too. I decided to give it a go after my GP mentioned it and I watched this:

bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01lxyzc

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Everyone is brilliant on here. Im going to look straight away. Thanks loads.

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5:2 doesnt suit everyone but if you discipline the 2 days then it can have quite good results-stick with it-M&S have some good 300 cal evening dishes which are reasonably filling and means you dont have to cook. works particularly well if you're exercising as well. Means you dont have to give up alcohol as long as its 2 drinks max on non diet days

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Just watched the programme. Abs fascinating. Starting tomorrow.

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Love your sense of humour. Absolutely essential when you’re on this road. Don’t despair though.....ask Dr Doom what 9.3 means. He’s the best person to tell you!,,,,

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I am type 2 diabetic and after being given steroids for polymyalgia my blood suger went berserk and I ended up being insulin dependant. The steroids and insulin piled about 2 stone on me and no matter what I did I couldn't lose any weight. After Christmas last year with a cruise holiday booked I read Michael Mosley's book on low carb and decided to try it. By the February I had lost well over a stone and my blood sugar was perfect. I had my annual diabetes check and found out that my numbers were normal. I came off the insulin and went on to lose another stone and a half. It gets quite boring doing without bread, potatoes, rice and pasta but it's well worth the effort. Good luck, maybe give it a try?

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