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Looking for some articles/research that refutes Big Pharma’s take on osteoporosis?

I posted these links in a thread somewhere, but am now reposting as people have requested some of these. I don’t know how to find the links and research that I just posted in thread replies though. So here’s a start for some of you newbies looking to weigh this side of the coin.

Good luck ladies!

The history behind Osteopenia and bone mineral loss is all based on a marketing plan concocted by Merck. They created the boards who arbitrarily came up with the levels of mineral density. Those have never been causal in actual fractures! These links expose the history of yet another fake disease:

healthunlocked.com/api/redi...

And this:

A senior medical consultant at the University of British Columbia’s Centre for Health Services and Policy Research; Dr. Bassett’s research focuses on the systematic review of drug therapy and drug funding policy.

His paper called On Trying to Stop the Measurement of Bone Density to Sell Drugs (ISBN 0-88865-240-2) was presented at the 12th Annual Health Policy Conference held in Vancouver, B.C. in November 1999. His paper resulted in a ban on these dexa scans until he retired, and then Big Pharma’s lobbying started up again. Many of the doctors there remember this paper and still do not diagnose based on these scans.

One of my posts also cites an article on the same lines from 2016.

Also, check out posts by member Roseyinthegarden who has done lots of research.

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HeronNS6 years ago

The links in your post are not "live".

MiaLee• in reply toHeronNS6 years ago

Oh gee. Maybe do a copy and paste into google search. Don’t know why they didn’t go ‘live’.

HeronNS• in reply toMiaLee6 years ago

Ok, tried this, and although the urls don't look complete in fact the one I tried did work!

MiaLee• in reply toHeronNS6 years ago

Ok Fixed the links in the post. They are now ‘live’.

HeronNS6 years ago

Here's a nice history, up to 2009 anyway, e.g., it mentions that FRAX is being developed; of course FRAX is now used to determine one's fracture risk:

npr.org/2009/12/21/12160981...

Cally556 years ago

Please make it plain that if you have medications that can induce osteoporosis that these conspiracy theories should be ignored. I have osteoporosis caused by corticosteroids and the resulting fractures have been life changing and are excruciatingly painful. I have always questioned doctors who wanted me to take bisphonates whether they were necessary, in all cases they have said yes. I did take their advice, presumably if I hadn't the fractures would have been even worse.

In a perfect NHS people like me would be continually monitored to see the effects of our medications. It does not work like that and it possible to discover the osteoporosis as I did when acute back pain crippled me!

MiaLee• in reply toCally556 years ago

Cally55

Everyone needs to make their own choices. However, it’s a hard sell to suggest that a senior medical consultant at the University of British Columbia’s Centre for Health Services and Policy Research is putting forward a ‘ conspiracy theory’. Dr. Bassett’s research focuses on the systematic review of drug therapy and drug funding policy.

His paper called On Trying to Stop the Measurement of Bone Density to Sell Drugs (ISBN 0-88865-240-2) was presented at the 12th Annual Health Policy Conference held in Vancouver, B.C.

‘Conspiracy theory ‘seems to be a label that is used these days in attempts to shut down any debate and to limit considerations.

Everyone has a right to information so that they can weigh and make their own choices. Trying to shut down discussion and only allow one viewpoint is not helpful.

It is not a perfect world indeed. This is why the discussion is about weighing harm vs good before deciding what is for you. Knowing that the information that your own doctor has regarding these drugs is solely from the pharmaceutical company itself is certainly a part of that debate and worthy of consideration.

Cally55• in reply toMiaLee6 years ago

You are quoting a twenty year old study.

I need to have confidence in my medical advisors in dealing with a devastating and poorly understood disease. I am sure that I am not alone in this.

I have just spent several hours in A and E because the pain has become unbearable. There some very busy but sympathetic doctors broke it gently to me that all that was possible was for me to have stronger opiate medication, with all that that entails.

These medications are also the subject of discussions about the motivation of the manufacturers, where does that leave me??

MiaLee• in reply toCally556 years ago

The study ( from 6 years ago, not 20 by the way), appears to be even more valid than ever, given the number of significant concerns with these drugs that are now more apparent than ever. However, if you look, the other posts I made, basically saying the same thing, by people with credentials, are from as recent as 2017. I’m sure you can appreciate that Dr. Bassett ‘s paper is still very much relevant.

Let’s also note that no more ‘drug trials’ on the drugs have been done since the initial, very short, compromised, 5 year original ones by the drug companies 20 years ago, in which they were interpreted solely by the drug companies and were not open, or available, to independent evaluation of their findings before being put on the market.

I am so sorry about your difficulty Cally. I wish you all the best. But other women, contemplating taking these drugs or not, need as much information as possible in order to weigh and make a decision. They sit on the brink, and sadly, given the contamination by drug company drives for profit over people, and their massive budgets for advertising and influencing policy, gathering all the respectable voices that spoke out with concerns is imperative.

Cally; I am so sorry about your pain. But I feel it is important to present the information for others that helped me make my choice when my doctor told me I needed to start taking these drugs. Everyone on this board has been, or is just now, facing this same news, and this same choice. Everyone has to make their own choices. Having information to make an informed choice is important. We are not being given this information by our doctors, and so helping each other by publishing our findings here as we discover them for ourselves is vital. This is why member’s like Viazoy have even begun their own blog regarding these drugs.

fmkkm• in reply toCally556 years ago

Conspiracy theory or just the right to an informed decision?

All the best to you on your journey 💕fm.

MiaLee6 years ago

Cally55

His paper called On Trying to Stop the Measurement of Bone Density to Sell Drugs (ISBN 0-88865-240-2) was presented at the 12th Annual Health Policy Conference held in Vancouver, B.C.

‘Conspiracy theory ‘seems to be a label that is used these days in attempts to shut down any debate and to limit considerations.

Everyone has a right to information so that they can weigh and make their own choices. Trying to shut down discussion and only allow one viewpoint is not helpful.

Viazoy6 years ago

Thank you so much Mia Lee!

I was able to get your links to open directly.

(for some reason this website seems to take the "www" off - I've noticed this before and don't know if that will happen in this post. )

I'd like to add these very useful citations to my blog JoansBackboneDisaster.com as they relate to my situation. (This URL begins with "" in case it doesn't show up!)

MiaLee• in reply toViazoy6 years ago

Very interesting, well written blog Viazoy!

Your blog would be welcome reading for so many women here. I hope you don’t mind if I make a post with the link.

MiaLee6 years ago

Bump up / needs a re-read formewbies