Covid Vaccinations

[mikebaker1949]

Hi everyone has anybody heard about any serious side effects of the covid vaccinations,

Also does anybody know if its suitable for people with low lung volumes like myself.

There seems no media reports about it?

Thanks for any replies

[Bkin]

Not everyone will get side effects, indeed I have not heard of anyone who has had the vaccine as experiencing side effects as yet.

You can check information from link below - scroll down under heading "Side effects"

gov.uk/government/publicati...

above "Side Affects" scroll back up a little for information on "Those who cannot have the vaccine" check out the link in that paragraph.

If you are still concerned check with your physician.

In most cases, the risk is greater if those clinically extremely vulnerable do not have the vaccine and are exposed to covid, but do check with your own doctors for advise concerning your own situation

Notably the above is a guide for older adults (I believe NHS pages has similar information generally)

Best wishes stay well and safe.

[mikebaker1949 in reply to Bkin]

Hi Bkin thanks for information .Stay well. atb Mike

[Biker88]

My lung function is approximately 30% and I shall be having the vaccine as soon as offered. I have Aspergillosis and COPD, the vaccine is a common topic on the aspergillosis support Facebook group and we have input from the NHS National aspergillosis centre at Manchester, and they are not reporting any problems with the vaccine due to lung function

[mikebaker1949 in reply to Biker88]

Hi Biker88 thanks for reply, good to hear your planning to have it. Take CareMike

[Hidden]

My consultant phoned me to check that I would have the vaccine. With lung conditions and low lung volume already it is a no brainer. Apart from a bit of a sore arm I have not heard of any vaccine side effects.On the othet hand covid 19 virus has plenty of unwanted side effects.

[mikebaker1949 in reply to Hidden]

Thanks for your reply, I will have vaccine when offered. atb Mike

[Wanttobehapppy]

I’ve had the first dose , although not as low as you I have 50% lung volume, apart from a sore and heavy arm no serious side affects,

[mikebaker1949 in reply to Wanttobehapppy]

Hi wanttobehappy thanks for feedback, I will be having vaccine have been just a bit hesitant as covid attacks lungs. atb Mike

[Bkin]

Just spotted more information here mike

england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/...

[mikebaker1949 in reply to Bkin]

Thanks once more

[INK45]

My lung volume is down to 27% and besides emphysema I have asthma, so I'll stay away from newfangled vaccines that have not been tested properly, while all reported adverse effects, including severe allergies, Bell's palsy, and even deaths, keep getting hushed up. Besides I don't like the new forms of all-pervasive social control they are trying to introduce in the wake of this vaccine. This is interesting: childrenshealthdefense.org/...

[Annie31 in reply to INK45]

Having read this through I do think there are a number of valid points that do raise concerns, some of which we have already been drip-fed which has happened so often during this pandemic and others that perhaps are purposely not put out there because the powers-at-be don't want us to think too deeply about the choices we make. This then makes the institution of a mass vaccination plan much easier to put into place. I am not a conspiracy theorist by any stretch, but I do think there are many facts in this write-up that bears some scrutiny and indeed there are some worrisome details that have already been released and skimped over not just by the government but by the media as well, I believe, in their eagerness to get this well underway.

Sadly, I think there are an awful lot of people who seem to think that this is the answer to this scourge but clearly it is not and although this has been made quite clear by the medics who advise, they seem to think life is going back to normal. Clearly it will not be a 'normal' we have been used to in the past. I don't like the thought of young children being given these jabs when, again clearly, they have no idea about any future side effects, health problems etc. I am very glad I won't have to make those kind of decisions anymore for mine! I have two daughters who have both been advised by their respective consultants not to take the vaccine for specific health reasons, so again I'm glad they've been given sufficient information to be able to make informed choices.

I do think there is an element of truth in the 'pervasive social control' you mention and I find that worrying and this did cross my mind before I ever read the article. As they say microchips is a load of old baloney but there are other more subtle ways as has been described. For me, it's about gradually becoming more and more distrustful of, and doubting the wisdom of the rhetoric that is thrown at us by the government on a day to day basis. This is where conspiracy theories stem from in my opinion.

It is for each of us to make our own informed choices but freedom to do so is an important part of that decision. It was a clear and concise article and I'm glad I had the opportunity to read it, thank you.

[INK45]

I'm really scared about the world we'll be leaving for our children (grandchildren in my case), I've been reading up about the "worst case scenario" and don't think there is much we can do to combat what's in store for humanity. Yes, I'm a little dramatic, but you can see what I mean here. childrenshealthdefense.org/... and watch this, very interesting, about the "new normal": bitchute.com/video/UQvaQFdG... The freedom you mention might be taken away from us!

[Annie31 in reply to INK45]

As you say I don't think there's much we can do in the grand scheme of things and I do understand about you worrying for your grandchildren, because I feel the same but I try not to let it get to me too much. All the best!

[Rockstar662002]

Please understand this vaccine isn't for your benefit it's for the NHS. There is no cure for covid. The NHS can't cope they don't have enough staff. They have no cure for the flu or cancer. The older and vulnerable will die. They will give you a DNR order & leave you there. you will die alone without your family.

[Annie31 in reply to Rockstar662002]

I'm not sure which one of us you are addressing but speaking for myself I am quite aware of the fact that there is no cure for covid and I believe I made that quite clear in my post. I think we are all aware that the vaccination programme is to help the NHS but that was not the essence of our posts and it is for each individual to have the choice whether to be vaccinated or not.

As for your remarks about DNRs and dying alone, I find that very distasteful but let me just assure you - I have a DNR and arrangements have been made for me to die in my home, in my own bed with my loving family present.

[Rockstar662002]

Do you think NHS put you & family members wishes into consideration. Your choice is taken from you by MDT. You need to open your eyes & inform yourself of the truth. We are hearing about what is going on everyday & the horrible experience family members & heartache.

[Annie31 in reply to Rockstar662002]

That is your opinion, and as such, you are quite entitled to it. It seems to me you have more of a pressing problem with your view of the NHS that needs dealing with and looking for an argument with someone on this forum over your experience is not going to solve that.

Good luck and goodbye.

[Rockstar662002]

Soz you think your life is your own. But once u enter a hospital your rights r taken away from you. NHS Level 8 Sister in critical/ hdu unit with 15yrs experience.