Breath books

[bagsypartime]

I had a bypass op after angina.My LAD was blocked, and I think that makes me fairly typical.After the op I was hoping I'd be twenty years younger but I was disappointed - I was pretty much the same as pre op, so my view of the science involved is not high, but that's just my doctor prejudice.

Anyway people like me are always googling how to reverse plaque, how to undo athercerosis etc. and finding either you can't or a plant based diet has some claims but even that is disputed.

So lets say the accepted science is that nothing can reverse it- although it is true that reversal has been achieved by some individuals .Mostly the experts say the best you can do is to stabilise and therefore statins, exercise and sensible diet are suggested.

The worst bit of info for me, being a believer in exercise, is that healthy runner types with a lot of miles on the clock have even more plaque than their equivilant sedentary cohort. That's not in the least bit fair.

Which brings me to these breath books.Ones by James Nestor, and the other is by an oxygen advantage guy.These same two also have YouTube videos.

The main bit of science is that there is something called the Bohr effect.Oxygen can only be released by haemoglobin if there is carbon dioxide. And because we over breath we don't have this co2.

Once you get back some of this Co2 a whole cascade of physiological things take place.I strongly advise anyone with some kind of heart problem to take a look at this.

PS. I did not mention Wim Hof and deliberately exclude his method.

[CyclingTime]

I did watch an article by a cardiologist last week. Latest research shows that athletes who exercise a lot at VO2 max build up calcification on their arteries.

The recommendation was 80% at Zone 2 and only 20% at the max

Interestingly he did say although they are prone to calcification they don't typically have heart attacks. That sounds very much like my own experience.

[DWizza]

What are we gaining with all this ?

I’m a lifelong sport head, had Nstemi July 2023 and quadruple bypass. Loving my rebirth. I’ve got great stats on my current meds , very happy with where I’m at . Just had a new hip , 17th October . Rehabbing well from that. I’m 62, I’m enjoy being physically active. I’ll be focusing on nutrition, sleep , physical work round my small holding , cycling , swimming, getting back into yoga next year. Getting the balance right and keeping my new pipes clear 👍🏻

[bagsypartime in reply to DWizza]

I think my point is that a lot of us 'sporty' types think because we've always done exercise that we know about it.It might never occur to us that we breath too much and the damage this may have done over decades.Even very good runners can bad breathers

Breathing is good for panic attacks ,anxiety, stress, asthma, copd , but I am not talking about this calming effect.I believe-my own experience says- there is an effect on the vasculature which is profound, far exceeds the effects of running, and if it doesn't reverse the plaque it certainly mimics that effect.This is nearest you will ever get to reversing plaque.Maybe the plaque is still there and my arteries veins or whatever are just bigger, but the effect is real.(at least for me doing simple breath hold pauses and breathing through the nose has mimiced this).

You don't know what you don't know.

[DWizza in reply to bagsypartime]

We focus on breath work , the importance of it for all functions in yoga . I box breath regularly , holding our breath , breathing out longer than in , I’m already on board with you regarding the benefits of breath work. I just combine it with my meds. Aspirin, 1.25mg bisoprolol, half a 1.25mg tablet ramipril, pantaprazole & 10mg Rosuvastatin . Resting heart rate 46-52, BP 115/75, Vo2max according to garmin 44(excellent, fitness age 35 🤣🤣🤣.. it has gone up , so even if it’s inaccurate there has been improvement) .

I think the hardest part of this recovery is the mental aspect . It affects us , the event is shocking , we cannot understand how it happened, it’s totally traumatic. Searching for answers all the time. I’m over a year down the line and beginning to come to terms with it. On the day of my anniversary, 13th July this year , I was celebrating my rebirth , felt fantastic and was working in the paddocks pulling ragwort and thrashing weeds. I got stung by a hornet and went into full anaphylactic shock. 4 responders came to my house, including a paramedic that treated me exactly a year before for my heart attack 🤣🤣. I even saw the same doctor in hospital , he recognised me a year later , he couldn’t believe it either. I’m getting to a place where I’m very grateful and comfortable with where I am , what happened, who I was before the heart attack , who I am now . I also thought I’d feel 20 years younger with my new pipes . The truth is , I’m 62 , I pushed my body beyond what most people do, I need to adapt to preserve what I’ve got now . Lower impact stuff, I don’t have anything to prove anymore , no times , weights to beat, my PBs are done. The new goals are preservation & enjoyment. Doesn’t mean I won’t be trying or pursuing , just managing myself better .

Breath work is important in everything we do , I agree 👍🏻

[Bluehope81]

Not medical advice opinions and suggestions only.

In the first hour of exercise it's very healthy for the arteries, nitric oxide increases , blood pressure increases, the arteries get a pumping work out. After one hour ROS , Reactive Oxygen Species increases, toxins build up and inflammation rises , blood pressure rises significantly all of which promote the plaquing process.

Should also look into Hydrogen therapy, I am working on infusing hydrogen into water by , pumping the hydrogen into nanobubbles so the water remains super saturated with hydrogen I have actually already built this bath, I will upload photos if anyone asks.

[bagsypartime in reply to Bluehope81]

Not that I really understand the chemistry but when you increase co2 tolerance in the blood that is exactly what it does- creates hydrogen ions that enable all sorts of other things.

There is something called the pap worth method but nobody has really studied this or recommends it.I'm convinced the body has it's own system for rebalancing and reversing heart disease and this is breath work.

[Bluehope81 in reply to bagsypartime]

Tai chi , is a focussed form of breathwork through light exercise and motion, might explain the longevity of such practitioners. In the last 10 years it's only become apparent how strong of an anti-oxidant Hydrogen is, but you need to overcome permeability and existence time to get the full benefit