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I've just a read a line in a piece supposedly in the Daily Express that says coffee might reduce the protective effects of statins. I don't drink lots of it - usually no more than 3 - 4 in a day plus a tea of ordinary instant coffee plus the occasional small ground coffee from a coffee shop, plus a normal tea in the afternoon. Is there anyone who's heard this and if so how much coffee is too much?

I take 40mg Atorvastatin, plus the other usual meds after CVD and heart bypass, and epilepsy meds.

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Dear materialman

Thank you for your first post and very interesting it is.

Like you I am on Atorvastatin @ 40mg dropped from 80mg because I now am on Entresto, reading the latest on their site { Atorvastatin } there is as yet no mention of the papers findings.

I think it is something that I would like more information on as I am a heavyish coffee drinker { black }

Take care

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materialman in reply to

There's certainly nothing in the Lipitor (Atorvastatin) leaflet regarding coffee, just the long known about effect of grapefruit/juice.

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Heythrop51

I find it hard to take the Express and its brither-in-arms the Fail seriously.. When I was first put onto statins they were endlessly quoting dubious research that said statins were over prescribed toxic drugs with horrendous side effects. Yet now they are concerned coffee affects the efficiency of them. Mind you a few weeks ago they were supporting BoJo the clown and now seem to be leaning towards Truss who will probably reduce human rights and privatise the NHS. Both papers should carry a health warning "Reading these rags may damage your common sense!".

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Heythrop51 in reply to Heythrop51

P.S. I usually have tea with my breakfast but today I will have a mug of coffee! :)

in reply to Heythrop51

I'll join you! But it would be my second……..

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gilreid1 in reply to Heythrop51

Well an answer that has nothing to do with the question. After my bypass procedure I was advised to try and reduce coffee intake.

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materialman in reply to gilreid1

Hi gilreid1,

Did they tell you what effect coffee has? I just read that moderate amounts of coffee (4-5 cups a day) is fine. See bhf.org.uk/informationsuppo...

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gilreid1 in reply to materialman

It was during a session of rehab about prevention of cholesterol. They never mentioned anything about with statins. Just general diet and lifestyle changes Good luck.

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Mentdent

I have psoriasis and every week the Mail or the Express has a new miracle cream or cure or something. I don’t take them seriously.

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply to Mentdent

I am a lifelong Type 1 diabetic and was first told a cure was only a few years away about 1968. This became quite a regular event until about a decade ago when the tide of Type 2 made the headlines. Every few months either the Express or Mail has an article on curing yourself of Type 2. Nobody is ever cured but weight loss, a healthy low carb diet and exercise can send it into remission. However, it will reappear or worsen with weight gain, poor diet and ageing. A third of 80 year olds are Type 2. I have very vague memories of a middle aged Raymond Baxter talking of a cure for Type 1 decades ago but cannot recall the details any longer. As you can guess I am not holding my breath for a cure! After reading these rags some are convinced those who developed Type 1 as children were very fat children!

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BobbyB1962

The Daily Express?! Enough said, move along please nothing to see here 🙄🤣

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gilreid1

Materialman. Unfortunately your good post has been hijacked by political nonsense. Hope this does not put you of future posting.

Can't comment on the effect of coffee on statins. However anyone with reflux disease is advised to reduce their consumption of caffeine laden drinks, which obviously and especially includes coffee, since it can further relax the valve (sphincter) at the inlet to the stomach which is allowing reflux to occur, making the problem worse. I was exclusively a coffee drinker but substituted black tea for some of my hot drinks, since tea is not as caffeine laden as coffee, even less so if it is green tea.

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sickandsore

Yes I’ve read the same info and I think in my statin info sheet it mentions about caffeine. I only drink decaffeinated drinks since I’ve been on statins.

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statinsinthebin

what are the protective effects of statins?

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materialman in reply to statinsinthebin

This from an article from the British Heart foundation "Statins don't just lower cholesterol levels but also reduce the risk of fatty plaques breaking off from walls of your arteries, reducing the risk of heart attack and stroke".

bhf.org.uk/informationsuppo...

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gladliz

I also have Afb and trying to avoid Aspartame in any thing is a nightmare. I loathe artificial sweeteners of any sort because of the taste, but lately because of the 'sugar is bad for you' campaign; it and Ascuflame K are appearing in more and more drinks and food stuffs that you wouldn't normally associate with sugar. I have to check labels on all sorts these days especially those with Reduced Sugar on them. Yes the sugar has been reduced but sweeteners have been added some of which, eg. phenylalanine are toxic. 😠

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Simes11 in reply to gladliz

Remedy: stop buying processed foods. 😊

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Philry

I think the greatest danger to your health is taking notice of articles written by a journalist, who has no medical knowledge, or training, and who proceeds to twist a line in a report out of all proportion, because scaring people is what sells papers, along with sex and horror.The report may well have been a statistically insignificant sample, or only found in rats taking unrealistically large doses.

After all, cif there were any truth in it, don't you think that medical professionals, who have to undergo mandatory continuous professional development, would know about it, and do something?

If you are that concerned, ask your gp - assuming that you can get an appointment! You've every right to ask them about the medication that they're prescribing.

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materialman in reply to Philry

Sure! I agree. The Daily Express (I saw this quoted from there) and the Daily Fail are the worst. If I see anything like that quoted from one of these organs, I'll look to see if there is the same from authoritative sources such as, in this case, BHF.

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