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Quick question (no, not about gin)

Well a couple actually.

Three. Let’s say 3 questions.

1. If you’ve had a heart attack are you more at risk for another or less because stenting?

2. Could arguably be a subset question from question 1. : having had the heart attack, how likely is another if you completely embrace the lifestyle/diet/weight/drug regimes recommended?

3. Which of the famous five drugs is the one that is the culprit for abnormal liver function tests?

4. HAH! FOOLED YOU ALL! Would it be thought weird if One were to go into KFC and sit next to people eating the verboten chicken products and just sniff their food. Asking for a friend.

5. Don’t be silly. There’s no question 5! I told you how many at the start! Keep up!

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Question 1, don't know

Question 2, husband had massive heart attack & cardiac arrest 21 year's ago. Completely embraced the BHF/NHS recommended diet & lifestyle, has never had another heart attack

Question 3, furosmide????(feel like I'm on mastermind!)

Question 4, I think it's weird that you'd wanna go into KFC in the first place!

Question 5, the answer is either yes or no, being indecisive I can't make my mind up.

Question 6, do I win if no one else answers the questions? 😉 😂

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Q1. Stents (and bypasses) treat CVD but do not treat every artery affected. A further heart attack is likely if lifestyle changes are not made and medication not adhered to.

Q2. I know of two people who are fairly fit for their ages (early/mid nineties who are over 40 years post HA and bypass respectively. But two people died within a year of bypassing - one resumed smoking and the other went back to heavy drinking.

Q3. That would be excessive Vitamin A supplements, alcohol and maybe statins. Of the Famous Five Timmy the dog is the most innocent.

Q4. KFC - horrible stuff!

Q7. Do I win?

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The answer is each and every question is (drum roll), 42.

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You have either read Hitchhiker's Guide or take 42 tablets a day. In binary notation 42 is 101010. Elvis died aged 42. So which one is it?

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The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. But I do take 84 tables a week, so that's 42x2

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I take exactly 42 per week plus insulin shots (ouch!).

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If Michael wins I'm not gonna play anymore cos I answered first so it's only fair that I win 🧒 😝

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No one has asked what the prize is

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And the answer to this question is also 42

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Are you googling the answers?? 🤔

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Please tell us its not an evening with Michael & Gunsmoke telling jokes 😱

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Too much gin here - it's SpiritoftheFloyd and me. Gunsmoke is pouring his oink gin!

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Hmmm never tried oink gin!!!!

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But it was actually a late night typo with no gin, or whiskey, involved! 😁

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I'll admit whisky did immediately spring to mind!!

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I quote "Making home cured fish is a very rewarding hobby, few things in life compare to" ......really!! 🐠

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But the line angus-oink-gin-tonic was neat! 😃

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OK, I'll admit that

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Yes, there’s a sentence I never imagined reading...

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Is it gin?

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It is collision between Sillyfroggy and SpiritoftheFloyd. You can buy Gin 42 (http://www.gin42.com) and most gins are 42%...

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1. Idn

2. Idn

3. Idn

4. No. I do that. Doesn't everyone who can't eat fried chicken do the same?

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What does idn mean?

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I don't no? Pretty certain it should be a k, but you get the idea :)

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I don’t no abbreviated text talk... as Alison said it’s usually idk.

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I'm such an idiot. Should have been idk

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I do love a quiz.

1. I asked 2 Profs of Cardiology the same question.....answer maybe. Stents treat the symptoms not necessarily lengthen life that much.

Stents open up the blockage but do not treat the underlying cause Coronary vascular disease.

2. Life style changes are thought to slow the progression of Coronary vascular disease.

Some diets are so restrictive that they impact on people's quality of life and emotional well being as they potentially set people up to fail. Moderation in all things my moto in life and the occasional indulgence....fish and chips and a cream tea come to mind.

3. Statins and ACE inhibitors and Gin.

4. I sniff and lick a dipped spoon of my husband 's coffee....why because I can't drink coffee anymore and I miss it.

So I must be weird too.

5. Actually didn't you say 3 questions at the beginning???

6. How's your sausage doing?

7. Can I win I don't have obstructive coronary artery disease but I am still at risk of a heart attack so life ain't fair.

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You deserve to win for the dipped & licked spoon...have you thought about therapy????? 😂 😂

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Umm you may well be correct😂🤣

I thought everyone who can't drink coffee dips and licks a spoon😁

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Hmmm no, I'm pretty sure it's just you! 🤔

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Well I am 'special' as I am one of the unicorns in fairyland 😉

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I win, I'm still drinking gin and slurping my words also I haven't got obstructive coronary artery disease either and I could have a heart attack at anytime.I WIN. LOL anyway I cant have one tonight I'm going away Sunday with my lovely husband. Night all.

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Ooer, where are you going? Love to hear bout holidays

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Going to Scotland, starting at Edinburgh. Taking two of our grandchildren with us. They're 13 year old twins I cant wait. Here's hoping no angina symptoms. Hopefully no stress just good times. Dad in respite and mum lives in a care home. Xx

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Love Scotland, hoping to go Edinburgh in December. Think positive, they'll be no stress just a great, though probably exhausting, holiday. Enjoy it

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We will thankyou, no stress wow I do hope so 🐑🐏🌞

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Have a fun time!

We non obstructees must form the unicorns in fairyland society 🦄

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You mean Brexit?! 🙈🙈🙈🙈😂😂😂😂😂

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Merlin’s beard sillyfroggy cant believe you said the ‘B’ word. Oh well.. if your rebelling so am I Brexit..Brexit...Brexit. God that felt good 😂.

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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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We will and if I see the loch ness monster I'll get a photo with it. 🤣

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You lot are crazy

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Laughter is the best medicine!

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It sure is. I always laugh at you all, keep it up

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😁

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1.If you have had a heart attack and had stents inserted, it is to save your life. If you have had one heart attack you have heart disease and are therefore you are still at risk. That is why a change of diet/lifestyle is so important.

2. The closer you stick to a good ifestyle the better your chances and as I understand it from my surgeon, if you completely stop taking the medication you will die. As indeed did my mother.

3. From what I have read, all the drugs I take are damaging to my internals in some way, so drinking plenty of water is essential. If I hadn't had my heart attack, I would have changed my diet dramatically and missed out on all the fun I am having now. That said the HA was a great incentive, the perfect one.

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Sorry can't comment

I don't think I want Cazz1954 thinking I am associated with this group. I am only a Little Crazy not Full Blown like the rest of you. Seeing so I am the only one allowed out on my own. I must win the prize.

I can state as fact it's possible to go at least 37 years after a HA without having another.

Best Regards

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I certainly don't think milkfairy should be allowed out on her own, what if she wandered into a Costa coffee!!! On a more serious note, 37 years is an amazing amount of years, well done to you x

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Excellent and positive response!.

Now Prada47 the question is what changes did you make in your life to achieve this?

Diet, giving up smoking, exercise and a chilled out attitude to life?

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Hi Milkfairy

The Cardiologist who saw me the morning after I was admitted said

" Mr W one thing I can guarantee is that if you Smoke again it will shorten your life by a considerable amount " I never touched a cigarette again and that was from 40+ a day I did have a very stressful job working 2 weeks of 12 hour nights then 2 weeks off.

I have also worked in Libya, Algeria, Lebanon, China. Singapore, Yemen and ended my career with almost 4 years in Mississippi . So you can see the H A never got in the way of my work. I suppose never having been concerned about the next bill falling through the letter box also helps.

I have never really changed my diet being a Northern Lad brought up on Pies & Peas.

I did walk a lot and still do. I do drink 4x500ml cans of Beer probably twice a week and I enjoy my life.

I do have a positive attitude, I don't want to Die, but I am not worried about dying. I was talking to my Heart Failure Nurse last week and just dropped it into the conversation " When I die I want my Heart to go to Research rather than being turned to Ash "

It would appear that they don't get many Hearts that have survived for 37 years post H A and they would be very interested in Research, especially now I have developed Heart Failure.

I am not blasé about the future I will try anything to keep going as long as I have my Health which sounds a bit crazy, maybe I should be in the Full Blown Crazy Gang after all LOL

Best Regards

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You`re also suffering from delusions if you reckon you`re not as crazy as most on here.I will admit,some are crazier than others.No names, no pack drill.Don`t know what that means,must be army talk not Royal Navy.

Good for you Prada xx

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C'mon name & shame...dare you 🤔 I'm guessing their names begin with an M & G! Though I also have doubts bout milkfairy at the moment! Edit..obviously the G doesn't in anyway refer to Gunsmoke123!! 😂

Edit again, of course it refers to Gunsmoke123!! 😂

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Oh no Lezzers,I`m not falling for that one.I might have a serious question one day and I`m not alienating anyone who might help, like Mr Encyclopaedia xx

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Oh cowparsley u do flatter me... Mr Encyclopedia indeed 😊 Thankyou

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Ha ha 😂

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Gunsmoke,I love you!!!!xxx

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😂 thanx Cowparsley 😊

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Get a room, FFS! ❤️❤️🙄❤️

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Oh,if only!!!

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😂 😂

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😂

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What does get a room FFS mean ?? I am a little naïve in these matters !!

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Ha, you don't really wanna know 😂 😂

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I just asked my mummy and she said it's rude !!

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Apparently 😂

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I think I am in some adult company here only being a sprog at heart I am a little shocked. I am sure when it says 1947 on my birth certificate it's a mistake and it should be 1974 I am sure I am not almost 72.

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Doubts what doubts?

Okay I confessed to my strange dip and lick habit but surely you can't hold that against me??? 😁

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Dip & lick, sounds like a bag of sherbet!! 😂 You're right though, all doubts now removed!!

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There’s nothing wrong with a bit of crazy, we’ve all been through a lot, we should be proud of ourselves, well done for reaching 37 years,

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Q1 & 2: it’s all about risk and probability, not cause and effect. The answer will always be somewhere between ‘a bit’ and ‘quite possibly’ with a sub clause of ‘we’ll never really know for you’.

Q3 not sure of the other drugs, but I’m on Ranolazine and now have monthly liver function tests that are talked through very seriously by GP every time (‘over working a bit, but ok for now’ this month) so clearly it can be an issue.

Q4 I’m Coeliac as well as a Hearty. I can’t walk past a KFC without starting to itch, sweat and shake. They are building a new one close by and I may have to move🤪. (From what I remember, it was pretty fowl anyway😂).

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You’re my new best friend thanks to your answer to Q4.

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Do I detect some favouritism going on here? 🐔

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🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🍗🍗🍗🍟🍟🍟🍟🍗🍗

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I liked HectorsDads comment about the best advice your mother gave you about always having clean underwear on each day.🤣

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Why is KFC verboten as I eat it as a treat at least twice a month - eeek ( scared face)

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🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈 I think because it’s all deep fried, but don’t want to rain on your parade. My takeaway ‘treat’ is the grilled chicken shish kebabs, requesting no oil, salad and I give half the pitta to my husband. I felt the universe had been overly cruel when they brought out that new amazing value 1.99 total fast food fest deal they have going now. I’ve not had one since my special day (22 April) and I fear if I did go in one it would not be pretty, there would be bones flying everywhere with my face buried in a box meal. It’s dirty but oh so gorgeous. That might be what I have on my Gravestone actually.....

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Agree that still left with coronary heart disease after stents but as far as I understand as well as life style a lot depends on level of damage to heart, ejection fraction, maintaining healthy cholesterol & blood pressure. It is harder for those of us who already had a healthy life style so can only change we can make is to rely on medication. Having had a seriously 'deranged' liver I have reviewed all my medication for suspects. It proved to be atavorstatin but all meds get processed in the liver & bisoprolol, losartan & others can effect but much rarer that the statin where effect on liver is common because this is where the the enzyme is made which statins block.

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1&2 According to my cardiologist I'm an idiot for not having adopted a Med Diet immediately after my HA 14 months ago, despite being told to just keep an eye on my salt and traffic lights by everyone else, so very likely. (My arteries have continued to narrow, apparently, although Hospital 2 actually seems to have decided that the 2nd stent that Hospital 1 told me I needed and Hospital 2 told me I didn't need, did need doing all along)

3 My HF nurse kept sending me for liver tests after upping my Ramipril every month. May also apply to Gin, but I haven't been on that medicine for 4 years.

4 No experience of KFC sniffing, but having given up cigs 11 months 9 days ago (not that I'm counting), I do sniff smokers, so have no problem with a finger lickin' chicken sniffer.

5 There's only one SillyFroggy.

:)

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😂

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I’m getting stomach ache from the laughing. Need more pink gin. 😂😂

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