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Hello, a quick introduction .66 year old runner and administrator on the HU 'Couch to 5k' and 'Bridge to 10k'

Running forums.

And now a reluctant member here following a heart attack on 27th Feb this year .

Work done on 3 coronary arteries.

One had a large stent fitted .

2 days later 2 more stents fitted to another artery and a 3rd artery opened up with a wire and pressure.

Approx 5% heart damage but considering almost 3 hours fromm 999 call to arriving at hospital I am surprised there was not more damage.

I think my heart was reasonably strong prior to the attack perhaps thanks to the running !

I was discharged on 3/3 and now slowly building up some walking , at the moment just built up to my first 40 minute walk yesterday.

Still a little nervous with the rehab 😐

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Hello (again !) And thank you for your reply .And yes, I remember you from the running forums πŸ™‚

Hope you are doing ok ?

We unfortunately here do not have the privilege of a Gym based rehab course since covid.

The courses were stopped and never restarted .

So rehab here now is basically a direct number to the local hospital rehab team and telephone support,

But it's basically get on with it yourself which is a bit scary tbh

But hey ho , off we go πŸ™‚

I'm just 4 weeks post procedure and just got my walks up to 40 minutes.

But yes, I will restart c25k when ready 🀞

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Chappychap

Another vote for Cardio Rehab.

People who complete the full six week course of Cardio Rehab after having had a heart attack, are roughly 40% less likely to have another heart attack in the following five years.

In other words Cardio Rehab works!

Now of course there's likely some selection bias in those stats. The people who don't go to Cardio Rehab may be older or have more co-morbidities or less mobility, all of which raises their risk of a second heart attack. However, it also suggests that the people who do attend are more motivated, and having attended Cardio Rehab they're better equipped with the knowledge and tools to keep themselves healthy going forward. That's the real key to success.

Which takes us to the crunch question. Have you any thoughts on what might have caused your heart attack, and what you might change to reduce the chances of another one?

Cardio Rehab, plus your annual Cardio check up and blood test with your GP, will provide you with plenty of ideas and metrics that might shed some light in this area. But the main risk factors (apart from age, ethnicity, and gender, which we're pretty much stuck with) are high blood pressure, high HbA1c scores, poor lipid profile, smoking/vaping, excess weight, poor diet, and lack of exercise. There are others, like gum disease or poor sleep patterns, but these are the ones that account for the lion's share of heart attacks.

And the good news is that there are ways of fixing or at least mitigating all of these.

Good luck!

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Instructor57β€’ in reply toChappychap

Thank you for your detailed response .Unfortunately there is now no gym based rehab available to me .

And it is now a home based course as I notice you posted on some time ago and the post is no longer available πŸ€” hmm ...

As to what caused the attack, it was suggested to me mostly due to family history and the fact I am an ex (of 26 years) smoker .

My cholesterol was in the normal range but now obviously needs to be even lower .

I also feel stress has been a big impact here .

I will certainly be doing what I can to have as best recovery as possible with a home beaded course though!

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ChoochSiestaβ€’ in reply toInstructor57

I did the full gym based rehab, but like you were, supposedly, fit anyway. It's very low level stuff so I wouldn't worry about missing it. My cause is due to family history but I do believe stress contributed as I was a victim of constructive dismissal. I have never smoked a single cigarette either.

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Instructor57β€’ in reply toChoochSiesta

Thank you for your response.Family history here also .

Also stress (last 20 years as a driving instructor)

I am less concerned about the course now as I am at least getting excellent phone help and support from the team who I have spoken to several times over the last few days.

If I'm not careful I could get stressed about not doing the gym based course which not ideal 😐

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Chappychapβ€’ in reply toInstructor57

That's disappointing, especially as quite a few people on this forum have reported face-to-face Cardio Rehab is now re-opening in their area following lock down. You mention"gym based" but just for clarity, Cardio Rehab is often held in village halls or other such facilities. Even though they contain an exercise component they're also about very experienced cardiac nurses delivering talks on medication, diet, recommended exercise levels, etc.

The BHF ran an on-line version during lock down, and they also provide an invaluable resource via their telephone service. Alternatively if you have any questions then try the forum, many of us have kept the notes and handouts from our Cardio Rehab training.

Some areas offer a gym based follow up to Cardio Rehab, which is purely exercise orientated. Even if you don't have the basic Cardio Rehab course maybe this supplemental training is available? The place to ask is the hospital where you were treated, not your GP, as it's the hospitals than run Cardio Rehab.

Good luck!

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Instructor57β€’ in reply toChappychap

Thank you , and yes I realise they are not necessarily gyms, I have signed up for the bhf online course but the hospital I was treated cannot take me on their course as I'm not in their catchment area

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Heartattackvictimβ€’ in reply toInstructor57

If there's no exercise component to your rehab it might be worth checking out the University Hospital of North Midlands cardiac rehab channel on YouTube. I prefer it to the BHF videos. They are graded and after my recent heart scare (and 2 previous NSTEMIs) I've gone back to these. Check out with your cardiac team if and when it's ok to start them. I was a keen runner: a sub 2 hour half marathon 4 days before first HA at age 59. I'm simply jogging now as opposed to running. So I ran half marathon at 5:36 per km, now I'm satisfied at 7 mins per km for 5k (age 63)! It's kind of frustrating but it is what is and I try to look forward. I use a Garmin watch to check heart rate and never run so that I'm out of breath. Warm up and cool down are even more important now. Good luck and let us know how you get on.

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Valentina98

Ohhh I might redo c25k again when I can

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Instructor57

Thank you

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Hrty

Hi and welcome. Another vote from me for cardiac rehab. There was a wide range of ages at mine and the nurses and physios were lovely. Now waiting on my community based phased 4 rehab to come through.

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Instructor57β€’ in reply toHrty

Unfortunately no gym based rehab on offer for me 😐

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Hrtyβ€’ in reply toInstructor57

My initial rehab was at the hospital, do you not get offered similar?

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Instructor57β€’ in reply toHrty

They stopped doing the here since covid .And the hospital I was treated is not in my catchment area!

All we are offered now is a home based course 😐

I couldn't have it better Hidden Instructor57

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Tallarn

Hi

I know for a runner this may not be what you wanted to hear but others seem to suggest a gentler form of exercise may be swimming. Perhaps an opportunity to introduce a new element into your exercise programme. Just an idea. Best of luck

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Coper10

Welcome. Could the hospital you were treated at refer you for cardiac rehab in your local area? I second the suggestion to look at the UHNM YouTube videos re cardiac rehab. Face to face rehab was not available at the time of my recovery so UHNM cardiac rehab team made a lot of online resources which were really useful. I then got GP to refer me back when in person sessions restarted.Good luck

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Billius_Maximus

Age 62 and had Nstemi at 59. 2 stents in LAD. Whilst under full Covid my rehab plan was initially limited to a few phone calls, however once things relaxed a bit I managed to get onto a gym rehab program that ran for 12 weeks from recollection. At the first session after BP and heart rate check the instructor explained that you must always warm up well before starting, absolutely but when I explained that I had run 2.5k to attend he became a little more relaxed about the treadmill which I find incredibly boring! I was a keen ParkRunner beforehand and did a PB under 23 mins a few weeks before my heart attack.... previously type 2 diabetic but had lost a lot of weight and thought I was the fittest I had been for years, what did I know!

Gradually built up walking, jogging and back to running ParkRun after about 6 months. Post HA PB is around 23:30… not quite back to where I was but not desire to be the fastest person in the graveyard!

I don't think the gym rehab helped me greatly as reasonably fit before HA, but taking care of and listening to your body is the right thing to do. Haven't bothered continuing the gym as not my thing, far happier out pounding the streets.

Positive outlook and looking after yourself will hopefully help you get to a good place, it can be done! Good luck.

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Misstibbs

Hi Instructor sounds like you’re doing great, I have a similar story following an HA in 2019 but have always been a runner and am now back to a 5k a week + daily Joe Wicks work outs which work fine for. Cholesterol is/was my problem so lowish carb diet for me! Good luck

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Qualipop

I'm not at all fit , I'm a wheelchair user so I was desperate to do rehab after my HA purely to build up my confidence with someone specially trained to hand 'just in case'. Sadly the nurse I was allocated, decided without me even trying, that I wouldn't be able to do it. They don't do rehab for those i wheelchairs. We probably need it more than anyone else. You will probably find it boring but what it will do for our confidence is immeasurable.

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