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PETROL VERSUS DIESEL - WHAT ON EARTH HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH COPD ETC , I HEAR YOU ASK ? !!! .....I'LL EXPLAIN !

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AS YOU KNOW , THAT MAYOR OF LONDON - KHAN , HAS FORCED AN ESTIMATED ONE 100, 000 MOTORISTS, FOR NOW , TO CHANGE THEIR CARS FROM DIESEL ( HAVING BEEN TOLD SOME YEARS AGO = " DIESEL WAS BEST ) . TO PETROL UNDER THE POLLUTION EXCUSE ETC .....OR PAY A FINE OF £ 12.50 EVERY TIME YOU HIT AND LEAVE A " LOW EMISSION " AREA LIKE THE NORTH CIRCULAR ROAD HEADING TOWARDS LONDON , BUT NOW WE HEAR , HE'S GOING TO EXTEND IT TO THE ENTIRE MASSIVE M25 MOTORWAY , , AND EVEN BEYOND THIS WHICH IS GOING TO CRUCIFY OVER TEN MILLION CAR DRIVERS A YEAR, IF THEY DON'T CHANGE THEIR CARS FROM DIESEL TO PETROL , - WE SHAN'T GO INTO HOW MUCH THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO MAKE OUT OF ALL THESE TEN OF MILLIONS OF POUNDS IN FINES , OR THE COLOSSAL VAT INCOME ON ALL NEW PETROL VEHICLES . = A NICE LITTLE EARNER AS " DEL BOY " WOULD SAY IN THE TV SHOW " FOOLS AND HORSES " ON PETROL CARS THEY DON'T EVEN WANT - BEING QUITE HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY HAVE - AS I AM !!.... NOW HERE IS THE INTERESTING BIT FOLKS = ......IF YOU ARE CLASSED AS = " DISABLED " BECAUSE OF THIS DREADFUL COPD AND OTHER RESPIRATORY DISEASES , WE ALL HAVE , YOU CAN APPARENTLY , APPLY TO THE DVL DEPARTMENT , TO BE ABSOLVED FROM PAYING THESE ENDLESS FINES WHEN CAUGHT BY THE ROAD CAMERAS ETC , THE QUESTION IS, - ARE WE COPD- ERS ETC CLASSED AS " DISABLED " , ? OR HOW DO WE GET CLASSED AS " DISABLED " - DOES ANYONE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION ? .......... ..ANY OFFERS FOLKS ? - ENDLESS THANKLIES FOR TRYING !! .....

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To be classed as disabled for the purposes of the charges you need to be a Disabled Driver Badge holder. Your local council is in control of giving these and therein lies another gripe! As for how you register this with the London authorities to be exempt from the charges is something that I hope somebody else tells us.

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Congestion charge exemption.

tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/co...

For the Ultra Low Emission Zone exemption, applies to a period of grace.

tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ul...

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Kind of you as always Stone. Luckily I rarely have to go to London by car and don't intend to. I'm sure that will help others though.

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tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/co... This is how to get the discount.

Now you do not need to be on DLA or PIP to get a badge just show them you need one. However most councils now use PIP Criteria to award them, which is were some/most problems arise. Mainly because the council have no idea what they are doing. I was refused a Disability Bus Pass because " I did not look ill enough?" I responded with a complaint and all my doctors consultants notes etc. plus my PIP and ESA proof (which was ignored on my first application )and was awarded it?

Be Well

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In Warwick they insist that somebody getting enhanced PIP for mobility also have 12 Points in moving around!😣

However, they also make arbitrary decisions about those without PIP etc based on Drs letters etc which they ignore if they are faced with anything different to legs which don't work. They are truly a ridiculous bunch of amatuers, there is no national application of criteria as some councils renew Blue Badges automatically. Somebody with DLA gets it automatically whilst somebody with PIP runs the gauntlet of ignorance. 😡

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I am with WCC for my BB too. I had it before I was on PIP I had one issue were they wanted an assessment but it was 3 months after my BB ran out and was over winter. I asked to speak to the person in charge and sent all my Medical letters . It was 2 days later they apologised and said I should not of received the letter at all and my new badge is in the post?

I do agree that the WCC have no idea what they are talking about. They do not understand the criteria of unable to walk more than 20 metres without severe discomfort. Their interpretation is can walk more than 20 metres !

Be well

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Well well. I think they need investigating. In 2014 they said I needed an assessment afrer having a badge for 16 years! Nithing I said on the phone cut any ice. I had to get a friend to take me to an industrial estate in Coventry. It made me so ill and I was terribly upset when I got there.The assessor was so cross that she gave me the PIP form! Then on renewal in 2017 the same boss refused to renew my badge on PIP grounds because she hadn't read that I have 16 moving about points. I through it back at her covered in hilighter! Honestly I dread renewing as I have anxiety issues as well. How do you make a complaint about them to WCC?

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warwickshire.gov.uk/complaints

Should do it

Personally I think London should be the leader in having only electric or solar powered vehicles and transport, the pollution is horrendous and causes more health problems for people because of it, although today the pollution is moderate tomorrow is forecast high.

londonair.org.uk/LondonAir/...

I intend to change vehcile to the lowest levels of emission when necessary, you save on road tax and insurance I believe. I do only use petrol now.

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The euro six standard Diesel engine as a system Add Blue which mixes with the exhaust to convert harmful gasses into harmless gasses. Plus are exempt from the Ultra Low Emission Zone Charges.

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Yes quite agree but I am in an argument with TFL over that as they say my car is not exempt even though it is Blutech fitted with SCR and uses Adblue and I have a Blue Badge

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We have had 3 diesel cars on Motability, we were told that they were cleaner than petrol because of the catalytic converter etc and were very happy with the fuel consumption etc, then all of a sudden diesel is a dirty word so when we renewed our car last year we changed to petrol. We can't afford hybrid and there's not enough charging points at the minute anyway so I suppose we will have to stick with petrol until we stop buying a car!!

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Not all hybrids need plugging in and charging. I have a Toyota Auris hybrid, which uses a mix of battery and petrol and it charges as I drive. It is also motability.

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That sounds just the job, do you get reduced road tax and insurance?

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Motability pays for my tax and insurance, so have not got a clue about reductions - sorry. All I know is that I get good mileage out of it so fuel bill is lower.

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A lot of people have bought diesel just on the MPG but if you do not do a good run regularly it could end up very expensive as you have to change the particulate filter.

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HMM - THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY ! - INTERESTING , ITS BEEN ANNOUNCED THAT AN ESTIMATED 3000 OLDER FOLK CAN'T AFFORD TO CHANGE THEIR OLD CARS FROM DIESEL TO PETROL SO WHEN ALL THE CHARGES COME INTO FORCE SOON , LIFE AINT GOING TO BE TOO EASY , WHICH IS GROSSLY UNFAIR , SINCE AS YOU SAY - WE WERE TOLD TO BUY DIESEL IN THE FIRST PLACE BY THE BLOODY GOVERNMENT - THE WHOLE DAM THING IS TURNING INTO A COLOSSAL " CASH COW" ...WITH AN ESTIMATED, UNDER THE EXCUSE OF " POLLUTION " , = " TWO MILLION A YEAR IN VAT GOING TO THE GOVERNMENT ON " EXCHANGED " / NEW PETROL CARS ... EITHER WAY - WE LOSE AND THE GOVERNMENT GAINS , PLUS AN ESTIMATED ONE MILLION A YEAR RAISED ON THESE " FINES " ON LOW EMISSION ROADS . AND HOWS ABOUT THIS .... IN A YEAR OR SO , THAT DAMNED MAYOR OF LONDON PLANS TO" FINE " EVERYONE USING DIESEL VEHICLES ON THE 117 MILES OF THE MASSIVE M25 MOTORWAY - WHICH IS GROSSLY UNFAIR - THATS MILES OUT OF SO CALLED " SMOKEY " LONDON ...=ITS ALL ABOUT MAKING MONEY .......BY THE WAY - HAVE YOU SEEN THE CAR THAT THE MAYOR OF LONDON RIDES ABOUT IN ? , THE VERY PERSON WHO COOKED ALL THIS UP ? ...= THE WORD " HYPOCRITE " COMES TO MIND ....

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