So I have now taken both 4-ap and 4-ap-3-meoh. In my experience I have found that the 4-ap barely even helps and in some cases makes my legs heavier and less effective. On the flip side the 4-ap-3-meoh helped quite a bit in overall leg strength and movement. The unfortunate part to this whole equation is I am only able to get 4-ap through my compounding pharmacy. When I ask for , and show them the chemical structure of the 4-ap-3-meoh they are either unfamiliar with it or unwilling to add the 3 methanol to the compound . Thankfully mod4all.com comes to he rescue and is able to get it via Japan. So I am just trying to get some feedback from the community regarding this Med. Hope all is well!!!