Covid Jab and Afib

[Squeak3]

Have persistent afib for 2 years. Take flec and bis. Went for covid jab on Halloween and went into full blown afib episode in 3 min. Food for thought.

[Responsable]

Not safe, but effective! Or better ... it may be just a coincidence ...

[Buffafly]

if you are in persistent AF how can you go into ‘full blown’ AF? Do you mean your heart beat became more noticeable/faster?

[Jenbo6 in reply to Buffafly]

Perhaps they meant paroxysmal not persistent

[Squeak3 in reply to Buffafly]

I was in NSR with flec and bis, but went into an irratic 150 bps with long PVCs.

[Thomas45 in reply to Squeak3]

So you're not in Persistent AF, as you said you are. How long did your AF at 150bps last?

[Squeak3 in reply to Thomas45]

3 hours

[Squeak3 in reply to Squeak3]

I am in in persistent but not permanent afib because I can be treated with drugs to restore NSR.

[Buffafly in reply to Squeak3]

No, you have paroxysmal AF - persistent AF lasts longer than 7 days

[Garaidh]

I enjoy a lovely afib episode a few hours after every vaccination - not limited to Covid ones (and I've had many versions of it, including Novavax which is a more 'traditional' formula - all do it). Pneumococcal and Flu ones, Mpox and something else. I just have to accept my system is very sensitive. Always been back to normal quickly, no lingering effects. I've had Covid twice and got off lightly. It's a personal decision of course but a trade off I'm happy enough with - to be protected. I'm grateful for the protection. Had serious flu before I started taking the vaccine and it was awful - took months to get over, made heart most unhappy!

[Autumn_Leaves in reply to Garaidh]

I’ve not had AF with vaccines but getting Covid was another matter. I was AF free for almost a year then I caught Covid and that was the end of that.

[Skodadet in reply to Autumn_Leaves]

Me too....

[Letofeyd in reply to Autumn_Leaves]

Me, too. Catching Covid accelerated my well-controlled, paroxysmal AFib from one episode in the previous 6 months to every other day for 8 -10 hours. It was *awful*. Drugs wouldn't touch it.

Only resolved with surgery.

[Autumn_Leaves in reply to Letofeyd]

Glad your treatment was successful. Long may the good results last.

[FraserB]

My body overreacts to any vaccination but then settles down. My initial immune response to vaccines is really strong and seems to involve my autonomic nervous system, which gives a temporary 'kick' that effects my entire body including my sensitive heart but it eventually resolves and calms down. Sometimes I also wonder about the other components in the vaccine itself, but I sure do react more than the average person.

[Meg24rd in reply to FraserB]

same here Fraser, not good with vaccines or drugs, think a lot is my autonomic system, I got LBBB after a Pfizer covid vac and then into AF, I am in Sinus rhythm in day, AF at night when lie down, EP want to do AV node ablation and pacemaker but am not keen on having this, got to decide whether to have the RSV vaccination, hesitant as dont have flu one or more covid and reacted to astra zenica

[Auriculaire in reply to Meg24rd]

If you are old or even middle aged you will have been exposed to RSV for much of your life . You got by without being vaccinated against it for all those years. Just because Pharma have brought out another vaccine to make money out of is no reason to rush to get in IMO. You can bet they will have exaggerated it's effectiveness and downplayed any side effects.

[FraserB in reply to Meg24rd]

I completely understand your hesitation, especially given how sensitive our bodies can be to things like vaccines and medications. Some days I feel like I’m on a tipping point even if I even eat anything that could set it off my heart. But thankfully, with vaccination my arrhythmia reaction is usually short-lived and tends to resolve and after this I feel more okay with it. It’s such a personal decision, and you need to feel comfortable with whatever decision though sometimes we feel like we are “stuck between a rock and a hard place”.

[Hallju]

Yep! I was five years afib free after my ablation until the very day that I got my first COVID jab. I went into afib that day and have dealt with many, many episodes since then. Needless to say, I didn’t go back for the second one or any other follow up ones. I have had COVID once (a couple of years later), but still suffer from afib episodes and had to increase my flecainide.

[Squeak3 in reply to Hallju]

I think that I'm going to decline my shots from here on as well. Thanks for the input.

[secondtry]

I am surprised you haven't had 100+ replies as it is a hot topic with polarised opinions.

All I can say is what I have read, from sources not hampered in the main by money, I won't be having any vaccines for a couple of years until an indisputable truth emerges one way or the other and is accepted.

My main concern is that the vaccines degrade the immune systems of many (not all) resulting in needing more. I am 71 of average health and have never had any flu, shingles or covid jabs nor have I suffered anything more than an old fashioned annoying cold. I am also on an old fashioned diet, the type you eat when brought up on a farm in the 60's.

[Squeak3 in reply to secondtry]

I too am 71 and aside from afib, have not been ill for 10 years or more. I tend to recluse myself during the winter, so I think that I am going to strike vaccinations from my list of necessities. Thanks for your reply.

[secondtry in reply to Squeak3]

Yes, I should add I am lucky I don't have to commute in crowded trains and do most of my job in a Home office and on farms. I just use common sense and avoid crowded areas in winter if I can.

[Nerja2012]

Had Jab in January went into AF 3 hours after, lasted 16hrs, my longest yet, still deciding about next one.

[greenfingers]

Both these jabs together were never trialled so no one knows what to expect.

[Unify72]

Any reputable doctor/cardiologist will tell you that the "covid jab" will increase risk of heart issues of any kind. And if they are afraid to tell you then they should infer that it is "not advised". I have spoken to many here that will "suggest" it isn't necessary. Particularly if you have a pre-existing health problem. The research and evidence is vast and easily accessible now, if it wasn't earlier. I'm sorry you still feel the need for this vaccination. I hope you recovered without too much damage.

[Responsable in reply to Unify72]

You are so right! There is a lot of evidence now... Somebody has said something like: "It is easier to trick the people, than to make them accept that they have been tricked!" Such a sad situation...

[greenfingers in reply to Unify72]

I said all this at the start on here but was told I couldn’t post it! Pfizer wanted to hide the trials for 75 years so that tells you everything.

[marcyh]

My cardiologist gave me a deferral - a couple of years ago - for any more jabs. My second one triggered an immediate cardiac response and I ended up needing another ablation. Too risky for me. I've had Covid a couple of times, took drugstore remedies and did fine. It helped reduce anxiety for me to have them on hand, at the ready.

[Squeak3 in reply to marcyh]

Thanks. That's good to know.

[Auriculaire in reply to Squeak3]

Make sure you have a good level of vit D. That has been shown to help prevent all respiratory infections - colds , flu, RSV , covid. I also take NAC - n acetyl cysteine but like garlic and fish oils it has some "blood thinning " properties .

[Squeak3 in reply to Auriculaire]

I'm with you about the supplements.I also take milk thistle to help my liver deal with the meds. Thanks.