Kardia

[Cassag]

Just wondering if anyone has this happening.I used to subscribe to Kardia but since Inhave not paid subscription the only reads I get are "possible afib " or " unclassified " . Then it tells me I can send g result to cardiologist. Do I i have to keep paying monthly ?

[BenHall1]

Kardia ..... like any business is about providing a product/service and making money.

Since I have no idea who I am dealing with at Kardia ( could be a robot given the state of AI today ) I never refer my readings to them, rather, take them to my GP for an assessment. She is the only one I trust.

[Responsable]

More than a year ago, under a different name, I have written the post under the title "Have you noticed?", describing the more and more frequent situation where the people get the message "possible AF" or "unclassified" for the condition they have. The protection you have been given for Cov 18 has shifted almost all of you, jabbed, in the region where you are bradycardic, have a large burden of PACs or PVCs and slip easily into the arrhythmia with the HR of 110-150, meaning not very high. If the device gives you the information as above, you are most likely in VT or SVT, feeling very poorly and having shortness of breath. You have problems climbing the incline or stairs and so on. The symptoms may differ...

[Cassag in reply to Responsable]

Thank you . I used to get clearer readings when I paid which is why I asked. It must be some different rhythm happening.

[Buffafly in reply to Cassag]

Since I developed Left Bundle Branch Block I mostly get ‘Unclassified’ as a reading. I also get ‘AF’ and ‘Sinus Rhythm with Wide QRS’ and ‘Bradycardia’. I don’t pay but I get extras free as an early adopter. I think you are right about having another arrhythmia.

[CDreamer]

I have never had a paid subscription and have often had the above but I have also had AF, AFl, Tachycardia. Bradycardia readings. I don’t think it’s anything to do with whether or not you pay otherwise there will be a lot of us on this forum preparing to sue for mis selling. My understanding is that ‘possible’ means likely but maybe a little unclear and ‘unclassified’ the algorithm has either electrical interference or cannot determine - this often happens when I am transitioning from or to AF/NSR.

[Ppiman]

I found this happened and eventually bought a different ECG which didn't need the monthly fee but which still gave a decent report of the heart's activity. There are two that I have used and both are good. One is a touchscreen AI device from Wellue, and the other a "6-lead" ECG monitor from Emay or Contec (the PM20 - only available from their European office via their website).

Steve

[Cassag in reply to Ppiman]

Thank you -Will investigate.

[Ppiman in reply to Cassag]

Both are significantly cheaper than the Kardia, too, although Kardia does offer the paid-for service of a professional reading of the ECG. There are several online services that do just this, also.

I used to find I was given an "Unclassified" report from my Kardia when my rate was over 100bpm but with ectopic beats. Like another poster, I also have a "wide QRS" from a left branch bundle block and this causes the Kardia to report "NSR with Wide QRS", even if there are many obvious ectopic beats. In the end, I tired of saying and receiving such reports and, most certainly, either of the two I mentioned give far more complete descriptions of what is happening. Kardia, like the excellent Apple Watch, are limited not so much by their AI software's capabilities but by what the regulatory authorities allow them to say given that they are both "accredited" by the FDA and NICE among others.

Steve