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Very good summary by BHF of Covid effects on heart

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JaneFinn

This is really interesting reading, Buffafly- thank you!

I especially appreciate that the results are for the most part on unvaccinated people (the study started before vaccines were available) which helps to clarify that these particular results cast light on effects of the Coronavirus itself.

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Buffafly in reply toJaneFinn

Exactly!

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SuziElley

Thank you for the link Buffafly

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Rainfern

Thanks for posting this Buffafly. The vaccine doesn’t offer complete protection but at least it seems to keep COVID a milder infection. It’s good to read that all the horrendous impact on heart and other organs is not significant in relation to mild Covid.

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Steve112 in reply toRainfern

According to Government “experts” 30% of people catching Covid had No effects whatsoever Vaccinated or Not..I can’t remember another Vaccination in my lifetime of any kind where you had to wait for 15 minutes afterwards to see if you had any serious adverse reaction.

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Tropicaltaurus in reply toSteve112

I had to wait 15 minutes after my very first flu vaccine but haven't had to after any since

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Rainfern in reply toSteve112

As the great anthropologist Margaret Mead demonstrated, the most basic signs of a civilised society are where the stronger provide protection and a measure of risk and inconvenience to protect others. I wonder if that 30% included all the deaths. It’s still a huge number.

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Thomas45 in reply toSteve112

While not a vaccine I had to wait 15 minutes after being injected as part of a system to desentitize me from getting asthma due to allergens, such as cats and house dust mite. After each of the 18 injections, during a period of several weeks,I had to wait to see if there was any adverse reaction That all happened 40 years ago and was successful.

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it occurred to me that as some of the more extreme effects of Covid were caused by overreaction to the virus, then possibly those who have a bad reaction to the vaccine might also be those who would have a worse reaction to Covid, but I guess we’ll never know that.

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Auriculaire in reply toBuffafly

The vaccine and the virus both can have bad effects because the part of the virus that is so toxic to our systrms is the spike protein. The spike protein of the original Wuhan strain was what was chosen as the antigen for the vaccine. The vaccines mainly used in the West ie the mRNA like Pfizer and Moderna and the viral vector (Astra Zeneca and Janssen) turn our bodies into spike protein producers. We were told that this production of spike protein in our cells would go on for a few days and then would stop leaving us with antibodies to the virus. We were told that this process would take place in the vicinity of the jab and possibly in the nearest lymph glands. Neither of these things were true. Biodistribution studies in rats showed that the mRNA spread throughout the body in hours accumulating in various organs including the heart . Autopsies in humans have confirmed this. Further studies have shown that in some people spike protein production after vaccination goes on for months - far longer than the body would be subject to with an infection . Nobody knows how to turn this off in these unfortunate individuals. There is an enormous amount of research coming out about how the vaccines ( particularly the mRNA ones )can affect some people negatively . It is also speculated that those who get long Covid after an infection still have the virus producing its toxic spike lingering in their bodies.

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Peacefulneedshelp in reply toAuriculaire

I have read those reports too. Plus in some the vaccine is causing blot clots and severe ones. My nephew experienced this, he never had Covid only had the vaccine.

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AAJJTt

Thanks for highlighting this article, it’s an informative read.

Following my first Covid infection (alpha variant, pre-vaccination) I had increased heart rate & variability (not Afib). My cardiologist thought it was some dysfunction of the autonomic nervous system due to the infection. There was nothing detrimental, it just took a few months to settle back to ‘normal’.

Interesting that they are still conducting research on it.

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Finvola

Thank you for posting this Buffafly.

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Camelia23

Thanks. Useful article, Buffafly

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ETFCfan

Thank you for posting, I used to post but afterAV node ablation and Pacemaker I felt so well sadly I didn’t so much but still followed. Then in February I got Covid, I wasn’t that ill but just didn’t recover well. Had breathlessness again and all the rotten AF symptoms. Went for my routine PM check at Barts in October and mentioned I hadn’t felt good since Covid. The technician checked my readings and brought a doctor in. Apparently while I had Covid I was having episodes of VT and they think I may have had myocarditis. I’m now back on Bisoprolol and have a permanent heart monitor at home and just don’t feel as well. They were able to tell me the exact date of my VT and when I deteriorated so in my mind there was no doubt in my mind what caused it.

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Steve112

Nothing Says ”Trust the Science “ like Pfizer asking for the data to be hidden for 75 years…

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