Magnesium question - another one!

[Barb1]

I used to take Magnesium to try and help the symptoms of my AF. I still have permanent AF but also a Pacemaker, so I stopped taking it. I am wondering what others in this community think.

[Ppiman]

It's safe and all forms are absorbed sufficiently well to boost levels if they are low, even a Rennie tablet or a teaspoon of Milk of Magnesia will do it without causing side effects (or best of all, eating extra fruit and veg), There's no evidence at all that one form is better than another, nor, in truth, that any form will help reduce AF but it’s true that many seem to like it.

Steve

[beach_bum in reply to Ppiman]

I concur, I read so much on this forum about it, I Googled it of course, (Mayo Clinic John Hopkins etc...NOT Dr Facebook) and then consulted my Dr...he simply said, “your diet and bloodwork would indicate, no, you don’t need magnesium or any other supplements” I do take 1,000 mg of Vitamin D3 during the winter months... #Canada , as my Dr recommended it because my bloodwork showed a deficit

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Everyone is different, always consult a medical professional 🙂

[Ppiman in reply to beach_bum]

You have a good doctor by the sounds of it!

I think in all chronic conditions, where a cure is not medically available, then some people find comfort from “alternative” therapies and, indeed, they might well do the trick. I don’t think that I’ve ever met anyone who is genuinely helped by magnesium but I do know people who swear by it (despite their condition still continuing!).

Steve

[beach_bum in reply to Ppiman]

Yes, I am very fortunate to have my Doctor. Not only does he have a PhD in family medicine, but also in naturopathy, so he is well rounded. He is also friends with my Cardiologist, so that is also a bonus. As far as magnesium and other supplements are concerned, if it makes someone better or feel better, and has no side effects, why not? The whole point is to feel better.

Always keep searching and asking...and keep away from Dr. Facebook 🙂

[Ppiman in reply to beach_bum]

Yes indeed. If something is certainly safe, give it a go. Placebos are the best medicine if they are safe. The problem with the internet is it allows just about anything to be promoted without evidence. I’ve seen potassium supplements seriously pushed for heart health for example.

As close as practical to a double blind, placebo-controlled study is the only evidence worth having - except for your own experience.

Steve

[beach_bum in reply to Ppiman]

Ya, I hear ya. People who are desperate for relief from any condition, are prone to falling down the rabbit hole of junk science and "guru Doctors" available online.Often, well meaning family and friends share links, and out of context quotes and affidavits, from those have been "healed" or "in remission" for many conditions.

It can be a vicious circle, and big money for those taking advantage of those looking for relief.

[Ppiman in reply to beach_bum]

My friend would never be without his daily magnesium (and various other) tablets. I've asked him why when they don't make him any better (his AF and insomnia, which he takes it for, are the same as ever). He just says that he's sure they do "something", and they do no harm. He buys the best from a local pharmacy, and the price is high. But he's not short of a bob or two!

Steve

[Domino49]

In 2020 I knew from reading up on line that I had what appeared to be Afib. ECG at doctors showed nothing- as you would expect. Episodes persisted. GP surgery referred to cardiology for holter. The appointment finally came through for 4 months away - just before the appointment for the holter was due the appointment was changed to a telephone call with a consultant. As I was experiencing what I believed to be Afib every other day but no confirmed diagnosis I looked up Sanjay Gupta and decided to give his suggestions a go to try and help myself. I ordered his recommendation of magnesium taurate. I started taking it two days before telephone consultation. Glad I did. Consultant put me forward for a 5 day monitor and echocardiogram but said it would take a few months! He wasn’t convinced I had Afib! After a few days of taking magnesium taurate the Afib episodes began to reduce until after a short while they had almost vanished. Hospital appointment came through for 3 months later. Afib confirmed. Surprise surprise. Bisoprolol and apixoban prescribed. I still take magnesium taurate and won’t stop. It was a life saver for me considering I was left to my own devices for 7 months. Yes there are no proper studies but there won’t be will there - there’s no money in it for drug companies.

[sleeksheep]

I have been trialing the reverse after reading Stephen Carr,s procedure on

afibbers.org/forum/read.php...

A member on that site mentioned that he stopped taking magnesium and his

nocturia almost reverted to his pre afib stage.

Just by stopping the magnesium I regularly get over 6hrs unbroken sleep where as

when taking magnesium taurate I only got 4.5hrs so a 33% increase.

This is with following Stephen Carr,s protocols

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