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I don't always sleep very well. I was wondering if I could take Melatonin while taking Warfarin. I will check with the Pharmacist or Doctor. Just wondered if any of you you have tried it.

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Yes I have. Check with your doctor but I found it 100% ok. Prices seem to vary from silly to daft. If your doctor says it's ok send me a PM and I'll recommend a good place to buy from. You'll get the proper stuff at a very cheap price - saying that I have already posted on the forum about this but please check with your doc first.

Paul

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sleeksheep

I take it at 300mcg and have found that rate works the best.

The less you take the better your sleep as this allows your natural production of melatonin

to still produce , higher rates decrease your own production.

news.mit.edu/2001/melatonin...

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PollyDoodle

Nothing to do with melatonin, but for years I suffered with insomnia, just couldn't get to sleep. Then I read an article about the effects of caffeine and I stopped drinking tea or coffee after lunch time and since then my sleep has been near perfect. If I have tea after that time, I use decaf. I tried melatonin pre again but it didn't work for me.Hope you get sorted

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Predictive text 🤬 should have read pre a fib!

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Hi Ben. Bad luck and join the club of which I'm a very long term member! Insomnia is my middle name and it can be a very debilitating thing to suffer. I would say that it can bring in its wake both anxiety and depression and increase the chance of having ectopic beats and arrhythmias.

I've had no success with melatonin, and I haven't met anyone who has but I have read on the internet where people recommend it. Low levels of the hormone are said to cause sleep-onset insomnia (i.e. not being able to get off to sleep), but there's not a lot of evidence when I looked (some years ago, admittedly) that taking it orally does much to boost those levels.

I don't however have that kind of insomnia - do you? My trouble has, for years now, not been that I can't fall asleep, but that I can't get back to sleep after I wake in the night. Generally, I wake after 2-3 hours and this has all been made worse nowadays with prostate bladder troubles. Thankfully, after the first wake-up, I can often get back quite quickly, but after the second, maybe around 3.30, I am stuck with my "busy mind".

Over the years, I can say that I have tried everything. Years ago, my GP reluctantly gave me some zolpidem and he later tried me on the very similar zopiclone, but I went back to zolpidem as I found that latter drug gave me a bitter taste in my mouth all the next morning.

So, to take the least I can, I cut my zolpidem into two and take half a tablet if needed around 3.30. Generally that makes me fall off within ten minutes and then I wake up around 3 hours later. It rarely fails, has never led to grogginess the next day, and I know that I am not in any way "addicted to it" nor has it become less effective over many years of use. I think it's the best sleeping aid out there. My GP himself had to take it once and it knocked him out solid for eight hours, he told me. I've never got more than 3-4 hours most.

I'd recommend a short trial of it if your GP is as understanding enough of your insomnia as mine is of my own. Some GPs won't give sleeping tablets at all, fearing dependency and the like.

Steve

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Thanks Ppiman. My problem is falling asleep. A lot of nights I'm ok. Mostly if I have something on the next day that's bothering me

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In that case give melatonin a go! It’s not really a drug even.

Steve

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Linkj

I live in UK where you can’t get melatonin but a friend sent me some melatonin from USA, I take 5mg at night and it definitely helps with insomnia as does acupuncture. I am on apixaban and told my Professor from St Thomas’ hospital and he had no problem

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I used to buy OTC in the US - wasn’t available in UK at that time & my GP wouldn’t prescribe in UK. I had no problems with it.

I’m not sure it really helped me sleep at home but useful traveling when circadian rhythm got whacked with negotiating constant time differences. I found my sleep issues were more to do with Sleep Apnea.

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