Rare clots with covid vaccines

[Maggimunro]

Just had my annual telephone chat with my GP about medication review. All is fine.

However, we started chatting about the dizzyness I felt after my my second Az jab. I made the comment “I suppose I was protected from those very very rare clots because I take Apixiban.”.

Not so came the reply. Normal anticoagulants protect you from clots in the arterial system whereas the rare clots we are all talking about happen directly in the brain and have not drifted there from the arterial system.

Just thought I would share that.

[BobD Volunteer]

And they are maybe one in four million.

[Maggimunro in reply to BobD]

Exactly my understanding. Who knows if those rare folks would have developed the clots anyway. Since they seem to be mainly women, I wonder how many had taken the pill or HRT

[Auriculaire in reply to Maggimunro]

The health authorities of various countries have stopped both AZ and J&J vaccines for people under a certain age ( differs in the individual countries) because they have decided that for those age groups the dangers of the vaccine outweigh those of getting covid. This is because these clots accompanied by low platelets are above the background rate for the population in younger age groups. There is also now I believe a medical explanation for why this is happening. Any clots caused by the vaccine in older age groups are very likely to be dismissed as not vaccine related whether they were or not and it will be some time before stats will tell us if there is an increase due to vaccination in older age groups.

[Auriculaire in reply to BobD]

Apparently the government's own data implies a risk of VITT of between 1/50.000 and 1/100,000 depending on age. Your figure seems a bit out. Where did you get it from?

[Ellie-Ann]

Interesting indeed! I was under the same initial impression as you. I had the AZ. No clotting problem thankfully. Grateful for the info though.

[Jajarunner]

According to an NHS infographic on FB (presumably true) the risk of clots from contraceptive pill is far higher, smoking higher still and actual Covid higher still by loads....

[Ducky2003]

Yes, it was one of the first things I asked the GP when someone posted this a few months ago. Hadn't a clue that clots were formed in different ways until I read it.

[Desanthony]

I was aware of this maybe I heard on the radio that anticoagulants, taking aspirin or whatever would be useless for these particular clots. I had the Pfizer jab and was fine after both injections my wife had AZ and had shivers in the first night after the first one and was fatigued for a couple of days. No problem after the second jab though.