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I recently found out that my hormones are way out of sorts.... menopause has begun. My general dr. wants me to talk to my cardiologist to see if this is what’s causing my heart issues (tachycardia/pvc’s). We can look at hormone therapy but he is cautious because most cause blood clots.

I wonder if this is why my anxiety has been in a heightened state for about 6 months? Last night’s heart rate stayed between 75-85 bmp. It’s usually 65-75. I recently had an ablation (12/22), so I know my heart is still in recovery. Yesterday I was short with my hubby. Everything was bothering me. Last night I got very little sleep. I feel like my mind and heart is going 100 miles an hour.

I have been taking Triple Calm magnesium for about a month. But, I don’t feel like that is helping. I did see a post about the vagus nerve, so I’m going to read more on this because I’m thinking some of the techniques will help. Sorry if I’m rambling. I thought if I wrote my thoughts out it would help. I always thought that this “next stage” of my life would be smooth sailing because it was for my mom and sister. I always have to be the difficult one... lol.

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Hello Baseball, being a bloke, I’m definitely not best placed to help on this but I know there have been similar posts in the past, so no doubt there will some helpful comments from others. However, it sounds like your general doctor is offering good advice to see a specialist.

In the meantime, if you haven’t seen it already, take a look at the following factsheet......all the best.

heartrhythmalliance.org/res...

Only saying this because of your nickname, but go careful on exercise.....

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Baseball40 in reply to

Thanks FlapJack. I actually have the fact sheet in my pictures and refer to it often. It has been very helpful. I have eased up on the exercise.. maybe a little too much. As for the nickname.. my son plays college baseball and that is his number. We are a huge baseball family. Love the game! I guess I should change it to “baseball mom.”

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👍 good luck!

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Baseball wrote

"Sorry if I’m rambling"

Your not rambling at all - it does help to write your thoughts down.

A heart rate of 75 - 85 is in the normal range. If we feel a little stressed out our HR always goes up a little. This is normal so try not to worry. After an ablation it does take time for your heart to recover. It's very easy to say but try and relax and certainly take it easy for a while. I find the correct breathing exercises help greatly to reduce my HR if I'm on edge. Maybe put some claim music on and try them for half an hour or so - it might help. Sit in a quiet room / close your eyes and try the correct breathing technic's while listening to some music.

Sleep is important too. Try and get an early night and a good sleep - this can make all the difference.

As for been a bit 'short' with your hubby yesterday ! He'll live and I'm sure he'll understand why ;-)

Take things easy for a few days and I think you'll feel better soon.

Best,

Paul

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Peony4575

Hi Baseball I ve been on HRT for 20 years the transdermal ones are not supposed to cause clotting . Am afraid GPS notoriously know very little about the subject . If I can help message me so I don’t bore everyone to death on the subject .

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amajul in reply to Peony4575

I got a blood clot on estrogen patch plus I'm on blood thinners. No underlying medical conditions other than Afib which I have not had an episode in 2 years.

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Peony4575 in reply to amajul

Sorry that happened to you. Doesn’t give confidence in the efficacy of anti coagulation

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FancyPants54

Hi Baseball. Your GP is in the dark ages. "Most" HRT these days is transdermal, through the skin. Tablets are a dying breed of HRT apart from through dinosaur doctors. Transdermal oestrogen has no increased risk of blood clotting or stroke.

See the wonderfully informative web site;

menopausedoctor.co.uk

for a wealth of information about what's available, how it can help etc. The podcast section is amazingly good. So many subjects, so many experts consulted with. Most of us have to educate ourselves first and then tell our GPs what we want. They are taught next to nothing about the subject and what they were taught has changed. Everything on that web site is working within the NICE guidelines so GPs have to take notice.

Your symptoms could well be perimenopause related. Seek the symptom questionnaire on the web site and fill it in. See what you get back from that.

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Heartfelt46

Hi Baseball, Men are not really the right people to make judgement on the problems of the menopause, only when their wives, partners etc give them a hard time.I had a hysterectomy at the age of 40, went on toHRT within 6 months and have never looked back. I am now approaching 75 and unfortunately have had to come off it for a while whilst I am having a knee replacement, but one thing I know for sure I will go back on it. Yes, it’s a gamble looking at the issues which surround HRT, but it has been one I have been prepared to take.

Other than AF I am fit, healthy and adventurous and have been questioned on many occasions as to my age, “How old?” and when told, always greeted with surprise, most times the guess has been 10 years younger. I put this down to oestrogen.

We are all different and make up our own minds, with knowledge, on the path we take forward. Be a sponge, absorb as much info as you can on the subject, do what is right for you. We are after all only here for such a short time and we have to grab life by the .............

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Baseball40 in reply to Heartfelt46

Thank you Heartfelt. I definitely want to feel younger again. The aches and pains, not flashes, sleepless nights are taking a toll on me. Not to mention the mood changes. I’m going to research oestrogen and see if it’s the right fit. I like to have the knowledge before I go in and see my dr again.

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Polski in reply to Baseball40

Higher Nature sell some useful supplements, which I found very helpful!

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Alessa69

Hi Baseball,

Totally agree with Heartfelt46, above . I’m 68 now, and looking back , my heart Rythmn issues , anxiety etc started after having a hysterectomy at 44. Hormones are B’stard friends ! I have been using transdermal Estrogen all these years , Drs keep changing their mind , current thought is that estrogen with your heart protection . Various work related events led me to Cardiology 22 years ago. My AF was only properly diagnosed though when I was 63, luckily an episode was caught on an ECG at my G.P surgery , it taken after a very bad chest infection . I’m an asthmatic & at the time my GP thought that it may have been a one off SVT due asthma meds . I dragged my heels a fair bit , did not know about this site , but then ongoing events meant EP studies in 2017, a Cardio version & proper diagnosis of AF , and thankfully Rivaroxyban for protection , the Royal Brompton team told me about this site . Had to have an ablation last year, I was lucky my EP did a great job , it has helped me so much . I had exercised all my life , my years flying had out a strain on my heart though . Do search out articles by Dr Sanjay Gupta, York Cardiology, he written a lot about the vagus . I’ve certainly found it incredibly helpful being on here .

Good Luck with all

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Baseball40 in reply to Alessa69

I am so happy I found this site. It has been extremely helpful. I have also germ following Dr. Sanjay Gupta On FB. But yet to see anything on the vagus. I will definitely search that up. Thank you for your help.

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Alessa69 in reply to Baseball40

If you search Dr Sanjay Gupta here , think you may find the link , someone posted it here in 2017 , no idea who though . Also, he post a lot of Youtube

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TMeditation

You’ve had some good advice on here from those using hrt. I had a hysterectomy 15 years ago and now take oestrogen only, not hrt- it was a game changer for me. It also keeps your arteries flowing easily. When I had an investigation of my arteries a couple of years ago my doctor said they looked like they belonged to an 18 year old. Nice to hear about the benefits too. Also it’s true what someone else on here said - gps can be notoriously badly informed when it comes to this treatment. Be kind to yourself (and your husband 😄) and investigate further. Good luck. Sue 🙏

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Baseball40 in reply to TMeditation

It sounds like oestrogen is the way to go. But, I would like to research it a little further. I’m ready to feel like my fun, loving self again.

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TMeditation in reply to Baseball40

And you deserve to have fun! However you may be required to take progesterone also if you still have your uterus. Sometimes well women clinics have good info. Take care. S

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Maggimunro

Hi BaseballThe menopause is like being a teenager all over again but with a few decades of life added into the mix. To use an Americanism, “It sucks”.

It made my life a misery for about 3 years till I went onto the patches. What a difference those little patches made. I decided to come off them permanently at age 56 when I needed a nephrectomy. The transition was then pretty seamless. I suppose that was because my own production of oestrogen had pretty much stopped by then, so I wasn’t subjected to those crazy troughs and spikes of hormones.

One thing is for sure, now those pesky hormones aren’t fluctuating like a barometer on speed, life is a lot calmer and stress free.

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Baseball40 in reply to Maggimunro

You nailed it! Those pesky hormones do feel like a “barometer on speed.” There are some days I feel like I’m going crazy. I’m ready to live my life again!

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Auriculaire

Like Peony I have been on HRT for over 20 years. I have always had transdermal oestrogen and since my hysterectomy in 2000 have had no need for progesterone. The ones to beware of are the oral ones prescribed widely in America which are made with equine oestrogens sourced from horse urine and synthetic progestogens. It's cruel for the horses as well as being not great for us! Oestrogen protects us from all sorts of unwanted stuff - like Alzheimers, bowel cancer and osteoporosis. I read an article in the Guardian yesterday about how newly emerging data show that women on HRT and oestrogen contraception do better with covid - catch it less and get milder cases if they do catch it. Some HRT specialists have even used it to treat long covid with success.

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Baseball40

That article sounds like an interesting read. I will have to search that up. I’m going to do more research on oestrogen before going to my dr. I want to be prepared when I go in. Thanks for all the good information.

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Peony4575 in reply to Baseball40

I use oestrogel. Patches left me with big itchy red lumps where they had been and could unpeel . Good luck

My wife had night sweats .... and other hormonal disturbances that made her feel strange. And ... it appears her symptoms were mild compared to some.

We learned she had started early menopause, so we researched and discovered almost all hormone or menopausal treatment prescribed by a doctor carried significant risks.

We didn't want to deal with them, so she went full-on natural relief. Exercise .... calming .... healthy diet .... and experimenting with natural supplements. There are several dozen menopause-related natural supplements to choose from.

To our pleasant surprise, this all worked wonders ... and now she is over that initial period of discomfort and stabilized into new normalcy .................... without the risks.

It's quite a conundrum for women ...... menopausal symptoms are dramatic .... the doctor- prescribed medicines make them go away and the sufferer feels so much better .............. however, there's the risk of some truly horrible side effects.

I suppose at some point every woman wonders ..... What do I do?

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Baseball40 in reply to The_Lord_is_with_Us

I would love to know some of the natural supplements that she took. If possible, I would really like to go the natural route.

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The_Lord_is_with_Us in reply to Baseball40

I would just go down the list of 'Formulas' until you get to the one that helps most. Some of them contain the most beneficial ingredients all in one dose. It's a popular topic on the internet. Here is a link to some product reviews:

consumerhealthdigest.com/me...

Personally .... I think it's a preferred smart choice to go the natural route. And ... I hope relief for you is soon coming . . .

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Peony4575 in reply to The_Lord_is_with_Us

And benefits like increased bone health . Having taken it for 20 years I haven’t experienced any effects except removing the horrible side effects of the menopause . And natural menopause itself is actually loaded with risk . Of osteoporosis, of cardiovascular disease, joint pain and stiffness to name a few

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