Amoxicillin and Flecainide / tooth infection = afib ?

[Paulbounce]

Hi everyone.

In a nutshell I went to visit the dentist with tooth ache 3 days ago - he said it's an infection and has put me on Amoxicillin for a week. This contains penicillin. I can't find any interaction with flec and Amoxicillin online.

I've had quite a few irregular readings on my monitor since starting it. Afib is coming and going for sure. Just wondering if anyone else has had the same problem and gone back in to afib when taking this sort of med or penicillin ?

Cheers Paul

[Hidden]

I guess it’s best to check with your pharmacist Paul.....l

[Paulbounce in reply to Hidden]

Thanks FJ. Just had a thought - tooth inflections can affect the heart. Maybe it's that.

Afib here I come again ! So disappointed after nearly two years doing so well.

Hope all is good with you.

Paul

[Finvola in reply to Paulbounce]

Aw Paul - don't show AF the way! Untreated tooth infection can, so find out about the Amoxicillin asap. Hope it clears up fast.

[Paulbounce in reply to Finvola]

Thanks FV.

I'm now verging on tooth infection being the cause ! I'll change the header to include this.

I hope all is good with you.

Paul

[TamlaMotown in reply to Paulbounce]

Hi Paul, I have my teeth scaled & polished every 3 months but due to the first lockdown I had to wait 7 months & my gums were very inflamed. 3 days later I had an AF episode after 2 years & 3 months...I was gutted.

Was it the bacteria reaching my heart?

Not had an episode since & that was last July 🤞

[Paulbounce in reply to TamlaMotown]

Hi Tam.

I'm exactly the same. I have always had a regular scale and polish but not had one this year due to covid - maybe I should have pushed more to have it done.

The more I think about this the more I'm sure it's bacteria reaching the heart - I know it can affect things. I don't think it's the extra med - I think it's the infection from my teeth / gums hitting on my heart.

I can understand you being gutted after a few years afib free - it's how I feel. There is quite a long wait now see the hygienst - this sounds the way forward though.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed the med from the dentist is successful. If it helps clear the infection maybe things will be ok. Hands up - I do feel worried though. I'm expecting full blown afib anytime now.

Still it is what it is - I don't want it though and being on edge doesn't help. I know what I'm like - if I don't go in to it the worry passes in about a week. I'm half expecting it to start anytime now though.

I'm pleased you hear you have afib free since July - keep up the good work

Paul

[Auriculaire in reply to TamlaMotown]

Co enzyme Q 10 is a supplement that helps with gum health.

[Paulbounce in reply to Auriculaire]

Thanks Auriculaire and Robbie. I'll check this out for sure.

Paul

[KMRobbo in reply to Paulbounce]

I think you may be right there

[BobD Volunteer]

I think it is more likely the infection (inflamation) which brings on the AF rather than the antibiotic.

[Paulbounce in reply to BobD]

I think you are right Bob. We posted at the same time as my answer to Tam.

I think it's the infection too. I'm going to carry on taking the dentist med's and keep my fingers crossed !

Paul

[jeanjeannie50]

I had a quick search for you re the interactions between the two drugs Paul, couldn't find any either.

Years ago I had an infected back tooth removed because of infection, then two to three weeks later my heart went back into normal sinus rhythm and stayed like that for about 7 months. I thought I was cured, that tooth had caused problems for years! However back came the AF, can't help but think your infection is playing a part in your AF right now. It may be an idea to use a mouthwash for a while too.

Hope you're soon pain and AF free.

Jean

[Paulbounce in reply to jeanjeannie50]

Thanks Jean. The mouthwash sounds a good idea - I'll pick some up.

I too think it's infection and hope it doesn't kick in full afib again. It shows we are all at risk even when we think things are on the mend.

I hope you are feeling better - thanks for your reply.

Take care and keep us updated on how you are.

Your forum friend

Paul

[KMRobbo in reply to Paulbounce]

Chlorohexadine mouthwash is what is prescribed for gum disease. Biggest named brand is corsodyl but that is quite expensive. There are many lower cost options in Tescos and B&M bargains and I would expect via eBay. Search (chlorohexadine).Be warned it does stain your teeth after long use, ( dentist cleaning removes the stain) it should not be used for ever ( says on the leaflet the time period) and it tastes horrible! !

[Paulbounce in reply to KMRobbo]

Thanks Rob. I'll check it out. TBH I don't mind the cost if it keeps me out of afib.

Cheers Paul

[Morzine]

Hi I’ve been given amoxilin for my gum infection.plus befire having dental treatment have been given amoxilin as it’s deemed wise. So dont worry.I was told by dentist that with af we must be very careful with teeth hygiene as infections can affect the heart.

I did ask on this site a couple of months ago about this as I was just about to go to dentist fir treatment and taking my ore treatment amoxilin......it was about fifty fifty in this forum, with some aware it can affect heart, the infection thst it, and some theur dentists not saying about it.

I think it should be more discussed as I think it is best to be cautious, and get the real facts . I can’t remember the name of the problem it can cause with heart.

Sue

[Paulbounce in reply to Morzine]

Thanks Sue.

Paul

[secondtry]

I have had the same stuff twice from my dentist whilst on 200mgs fleacainide, no problems.At the outset of my AF in 2014, I read how teeth/gum issues can affect the heart and so over the next two years spent a fortune (albeit very late in the day!) getting them right. I also spend double the time looking after them daily.

[Paulbounce in reply to secondtry]

Thanks Sec

Paul

[Hannibal1948]

Just call the chemist and ask the Pharmacist. They are experts in the mix of drugs....

[Paulbounce in reply to Hannibal1948]

Thanks Hann - it appears the mix is fine with no interactions.

Paul

[bassets]

Hope you're ok again soon. It's probably the infection, as other people have said, which can affect the heart. Good luck.

[Paulbounce in reply to bassets]

Cheers Bass. I would say infection for sure.

Paul

[bassets in reply to Paulbounce]

[cbsrbpm]

I have had a fib with tooth infection a few times. I believe it to be the infection and not the amoxicillin. Not medically trained but through my own experience. Hope it sorts out soon.

[Paulbounce in reply to cbsrbpm]

Thanks cbs. Did you return to sinus when the infection cleared ?

Paul

[cbsrbpm]

Yes Paul I did. I’d been in AF for a week or two with very bad infection in my tooth, took a couple of rounds of amoxicillin before it cleared up and was sitting knitting one day and suddenly realised I’d gone back into sinus. It happened once before too. Good luck. I’m back in persistent AF now and think it will have to be pace and ablate for me to have any quality of life.

[Paulbounce in reply to cbsrbpm]

OK cbs - I'm pleased you went back in to sinus at the time. Sorry to hear though that you are now in persistent and will have to pace and ablate.

Nightmare I know but good luck with it.

Paul

[Geraldmilton]

I also had the same dentist knows all meds that I’m on had no probs I am continually in af but had no probs with antibiotics am on riveroxaban and bisoprolol

[Paulbounce in reply to Geraldmilton]

Thanks Gerald. It's good to know the antibiotics worked ok for you.

Enjoy your day.

Paul

[wilsond]

Sorry Paul just saw your post.I am allergic to penicillin ,wonder if you are too?

Might be the infection causing crazy heart reaction in itself too.

Perhaps speak to pharmacist or GP ?

If you had a non penicillin antibiotic at least that would take that out of the equation ?

Best of luck.

Teeth eh? I have problems with mine quite often..sympathies !

[wilsond]

Ps when I had to have a very tricky rootcanal work done,I had to have three lots of antibiotics and had AF join the party . But it settled down nicely shortly afterwards to ore infection levels xx

[Paulbounce in reply to wilsond]

Hiya Will.

I think it's the infection for sure. AF is coming and going but is stable more often than not. It is a disapointment though when I've been doing so well.

I am expecting it back 'full time' and have to go through CV's etc again.

I hope you are well and have a lovely weekend

Paul

[wilsond in reply to Paulbounce]

Let's keep fingers knees and elbows crossed that AF drifts away after the infection is knocked on the head .Yes it gets on yer nerves this crazy heart stuff....

Hope you are well soon in every sense of the word.

Take care and stay safe friend x

[Paulbounce in reply to wilsond]

Thanks Wil. You stay well and healthy too

Paul

[Trenin]

Broad spectrum antibiotics may cause higher blood pressure in some people....it seemed to make me more susceptible to anafib episode. I felt much better when I was done with the antibiotics.🙂

[Paulbounce in reply to Trenin]

Thanks Trenin. That's interesting to note. Pleased you felt better when you were off the antibiotics

Paul