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Stopping edoxaban for operation

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I need a minor operation requiring anaesthetic.

I am on edoxaban. My consultant recommends taking the last one on the morning 3 days before the operation and recommencing 48 hours after.

This is 4 to 5 days without an anticoagulant.

Any thoughts please?

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CDreamer profile image
CDreamer

Refer to your cardiologist for advice. I had a revision of my Pacemaker in June - 3+ hours & only stopped Apixaban the morning of the op.

I think a lot of general surgeons are far more frightened of bleeds & don’t fully understand the risk for us Affibers.

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Melbuckton in reply to CDreamer

That advice is from a top cardiologist.

He says the risk of a stroke over that period is extremely small.

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BobDVolunteer

I agree with CD here. General guidelines are don't take the one the day of the op and start again next day. The half life is very short which is why these new drugs are so useful.

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Melbuckton in reply to BobD

Yes that's what I thought but he has reiterated the advice 3 times hence my question here.

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BobDVolunteer in reply to Melbuckton

Ask him if he is happy to put that in writing so you can sue him if you do stroke!

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Melbuckton in reply to BobD

Good one!

I've decided to postpone the operation as I want to keep the edoxaban going so I can have possibly a cardioversion early next year.

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CDreamer in reply to Melbuckton

That sounds sensible.

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Melbuckton in reply to CDreamer

Trouble with af is that it doesn't understand sensible!

I can't have the operation until my pulse comes down to about 80 average. In the last 5 weeks dose altered from 1.25 to ten mg bisopropol and it's down to avg. 90.

Got 3 weeks to stabilise at 80.

NB. These forums are amazing every day somebody has a happy or sad tale.

Shakespeare would love them...

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Melbuckton

I don't know what the statistics on chance of a bleed but the anaesthetic needle is going in adjacent to eye. Dodgy area to get a bleed in.

I am puzzled though as I thought noacs where quick on off and so could just be missed on the day of the operation seems not.

Excellent information on statistics thanks!

I went thru 2 surgeries a year ago that I ended up off anticoagulation about 2 weeks and most recently had a knee replacement twice in a 60 day window and was off again for about two weeks all together. Fortunately, I didnt have any problems .

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Melbuckton in reply to

That's very interesting! So looks like one can be off it for several days or more.

Thanks

in reply to Melbuckton

I think its a risk but how much risk , who knows. Ive not had any a fib in the last 19 mo so that probably is a plus

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True

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Barb1 in reply to Melbuckton

In the past I developed a clot in the LA due to being under anti coagulated for a few days because of an op.

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Melbuckton in reply to Barb1

Oh wow. I can postpone the operation near the eye till after cardioversion. The blood test is a follow on one 6 weeks after the first.

I will have to ring the blood clinic to see what they say they must get thousands of people on anticoagulants.

Also my GP knows I am fully anticoagulated and yet just texted asking for a blood test. I have no way of contacting him to query it.

Ta for your very relevant information.

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Barb1 in reply to Melbuckton

The test could be for liver and kidney function.

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Melbuckton in reply to Barb1

True but then not related to a possible cardioversion operation?

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Barb1 in reply to Melbuckton

A cardioversion is a procedure not an operation. But because you are having a GA, maybe.

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Melbuckton in reply to Barb1

Accepted. Excuse? 5 week newbie

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Barb1 in reply to Melbuckton

We are all learning. Just some further along the road :)

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Melbuckton

The consultants 5 days includes before and after the op. Specifically:

My consultant recommends taking the last one on the morning 3 days before the operation and recommencing 48 hours after.

This is 4 to 5 days without an anticoagulant

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Barb1 in reply to Melbuckton

Your consultant sounds like he is still living in warfarin land. How old is he? Sounds like some retraining needed.

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Melbuckton in reply to Barb1

Oh dear that's not what I wanted to hear!

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Barb1 in reply to Melbuckton

Don't be afraid to question the consultants. I think I would be asking him what his advice would be if you were on warfarin. If it is the same, you have your answer. ....because of course it shouldnt be.

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R1100S1

Recently out of hospital

Stopped rivaroxiban 48 hours before admission on 18th November

6 hour operation on 18th then another couple of hours opened up again due to complications

Developed a superbug so was isolated in HDU for about 17 days I think, released last. Friday 13th to home and community care

Back on rivaroxiban on 10th Dec

In the interim I had injections to stop blood clots/ strokes.

At its worst the monitors indicated HR of 140 plus.

My conditions at time ?

Pancreatitis with pre cancer- AF and Bronchiectasis, hopefully only the last 2 now

I was confident that all involved took utmost care re AF complications

Hope all goes well for you

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Melbuckton in reply to R1100S1

That's a good Xmas story!

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