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This link, posted by Secondtry (Thank you!) earlier today, clarifies very fully the issue re magnesium.

openheart.bmj.com/content/o...

It quotes arrythmias as a 'possible cardiovascular manifestation of magnesium deficiency' and also lists 'tinnitus' as a 'potential clinical sign of magnesium deficiency'. How many people here would be much healthier if they and their doctors took this to heart (provided they don't have kidney disease)?

('Potential' and 'possible' should be read as indicating that no researcher will say 'this is the only cause' in relation to anything, as there is always more to learn!)

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More salt ? Really? And the same guy writes this article reviewing the literature with unsubstantiated claims in the preamble.

And Dr Gupta promoting an expensive brand of Magnesium on his website- what's that about?

Unlikely anyone here has a diet deficient in Magnesium or anything else

Some vitamins will kill some of the worried well. Go search.

Still good luck to him if his next book on how low mag is killing us all makes him a fortune.

Your message may be right but this messenger undermines your case. Speculation is no substitute for facts.

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Sanjay Gupta is horrified at how the cost of the magnesium he recommended has gone up. I think magnesium citrate is one that he recommends now too. Hmm, think it was magnesium oxide he said not to take. I'll try and find the post in which he says all this, but if it's on Facebook I don't think I'll be able to post it here.

Jean

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You can copy text from fb and paste her I think.

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Thanks Bagrat, but it's a video of him talking on Facebook and isn't on YouTube. I guess it would be on his Facebook page, but a lot of people aren't on Facebook and they would need him to add them as one of his friends I guess to see it.

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Bagrat in reply tojeanjeannie50

Sorry got wrong end of stick ( happens a lot!) You are supposed to be able to copy videos but I haven't had success every time!!

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m.facebook.com/story.php?st... dont know if this is right one or if link will work. He does mention magnesium in tbe middle.

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jeanjeannie50 in reply toBagrat

How did you do that? Did you just post the link from his Facebook page? I wonder if only people on Facebook can see this? Yes, I think that may well be the one.

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Sometimes you have to click on the video to "open" it then sometimes right click on the video and you get various options one of which is copy link. On this one i was on my phone and three little dots top right allowed me to tap those and get a similar menu. perhaps someone NOT on facebook could let us know???

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The claims in the 'preamble' are substantiated throughout the article, with many references.

What kindsof magnesium are best has been debated on here many times (see the search box above). Dr Gupta has good reasons for recommending that one, which was nearly half the price when he recommended it. Unfortunately it is imported from America and demand has forced the price up (See jeanjeannie's post above).

It is very likely that many of us are deficient in magnesium, as food is now grown without sufficient magnesium in the soil. There was much more in the soil, and hence in our food, 50 years ago. Unfortunately standard blood tests only show the amount of magnesium in the blood stream, and this mineral is so important for our well-being that our bodies make sure there is enough in the blood stream if they possibly can, but our stores may be seriously deficient.

If you choose to believe the well-known mantra that 'a balnced diet contains all the nutrients we need' then you are welcome. My experience has been otherwise. It saddens me to see how many people are 'desperate for help' but will not consider the basics of good nutrition, life-style etc. Our bodies cannot heal if we do not give them enough of the basic building blocks to enable them to do so.

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Yes I'm well aware how to read a referenced article. Observational studies are a poor substitute for RCTs in preventive medicine

The author lacks credibility. Anyone can quickly find source material via Google Scholar : putting forward a coherent argument is less easy, at least one that the scientific community will find credible

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Well most people would find this more pursuasive given its source, than the author of a book arguing we should increase our salt intake!

google.co.uk/search?q=salt+...

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Evefay

I don't comment much but every time I go to the hospital with chest pain they always check my magnesium and potassium. I take 200mg celated magnesium each day. I don't think it can hurt and maybe it will even help. Good health to all!

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