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New study regarding benefits of plant based diet
Do you suppose that the fact that it was a self-selected sample had anything to do with it?
I know it’s difficult to do a diet study but the outcome still indicates a trend.
It only indicates selection bias.
You know, how much I appreciate your expertise and advice. And I trust that there is always something to complement. And if it’s just for our overall health and survival. Have a nice Sunday!
I agree. One of the things mentioned in the study:
"Compared with participants in the lowest PDI and hPDI quintile, participants in the highest quintile of PDI and hPDI had a faster walking pace, lower body mass index, and lower diagnostic PSA and were less likely to smoke." and perhaps other unsaid non-diet related health-seeking lifestyles.
When it comes to diet and prostate cancer I think of the Japanese. In the past Japanese men had a very low rate of Pca in Japan. When they moved to the US and started eating the western diet their prostate cancer rate increased. With all the McDonalds popping up in Japan I’m pretty sure that will solidify the diet’s connection to prostate cancer.
Yes, I’m aware of this. I trust, diet plays an important role. And exercise, meditation, sleep and stress management, too. Maybe Japanes not only changed their diet when moving to the US.
If you research prostate cancer in Japan you will find it increased fourfold in the last two decades. Their diet has changed drastically with the younger generations. Somewhat like colon cancer among young people in the US.
After reading your bio, do you believe you were dx'd <=3Ta? If not, how does this study apply to you?
What do you mean with diagnosed less equal 3 Ta?
This longitudinal observational cohort study included men with biopsy-proven nonmetastatic prostate cancer (stage ≤T3a)
Correction, T3a not 3Ta.
Where you diagnosed T3a?
No.
Then how does this study apply to you?
First, a high percentage of people with PC die because of other diseases. And even when men with T3b and higher were not included, this doesn’t automatically mean, that a PBD is useless for them
The study is confined to those with T3a and lower. There are plenty of studies performed on the benefits of eating a plant based diet, i.e. Mediterranean Diet. Nothing special about this study that would help the majority on this board
I know red meat is out but how about chicken or pork ?
Sure.... Just use pork for the stuffing.........
Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.
j-o-h-n
Ok, I gotta say something here. Like many of us I’m really pretty old (75), and for the vast majority of that life I’ve been a food/nutrition guy. I had a whole year of University devoted to it.
Using food or diets to deal with aggressive, metastatic prostate cancer is a long term approach. You may not live long enough to see the outcome of only eating plants. And, if you’re doing a diet instead of taking drugs, you may be unnecessarily shortening your life.
And while I’m ranting, a huge number of “scientific studies” are not worth publishing. They’re poorly set up, not peer reviewed, etc.
You will need all your attention of treatment plans, communicating with your doctors, finding which meds get the best result, and not on a diet.
I’m in the middle of chemo and I have to eat what will stay down and give me the calories to get through the day. Last week it was beef baloney!
Our time is limited. Make good choices. And have some fun anytime the storm breaks. This stuff is real.
It’s never „instead“ but complementary to therapies & co. And you are right, there are a lot of useless studies out there. But a healthy diet may help you to find out, if you die from PC or not. Otherwise you might die of stroke or heart attack or whatsoever. In other words: we not only need to fight the PC tumor cells but also all diseases which are a result of our therapies.
No two people seem to agree on what a healthy diet exactly is. That‘s part of the problem, IMO. I think it goes without saying that the healthier you are, the better your chances with treatment. But health is more than following a certain type of diet. Not over-eating, exercising, continuing to learn about PC, general attitude, and support seem like the building blocks for a decent shot at living longer with QoL
Of course, fully agree. But diet is huge and not as controversially discussed as it seems. Industries play a major role why man of us are confused.
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