sarms

[Radars]

I have been thinking about trying sarms for my p/c and severe osteoporosis but after reading around what side effects from people who have been on them not good for taking long term and that they are dangerous,

[mrscruffy]

When used properly the only SE I have experienced or know about is dip in HDL. What have you read?

[Radars in reply to mrscruffy]

I have been reading allover on Google about people who have used sarm,and crazy bull alternative to sarms.

[cesces]

What exactly is SARMs?

[kreg001 in reply to cesces]

fda.gov/consumers/consumer-...

[cesces in reply to kreg001]

SARMs sound sort of ominous.

Why would someone use SARMs instead of plain old fashioned testosterone?

What are the branded pharma name(s) for SARMs?

[Radars in reply to cesces]

they say least side effects.

[Cactus297 in reply to kreg001]

Thanks for the information. I’m going to send it on to my son.

[Scout4answers]

I took RAD140 and it elevated my PSA see my profile for history. I have used Osterine a few times since with no rise in PSA. Osterine has some interesting properties that should help PCa patients

[Radars in reply to Scout4answers]

thanks, but can you use it long term because what I have been reading you have to use it in cycles with pct.i think the reason my testosterone has not recovered is that before being dx in 2014 I was using test and it shut down my own test,and that's why that after treatment in 2016 my test has not recovered, so do you think ostarine will be ok for me and osteoporosis.

[Radars in reply to Scout4answers]

ostarine didn't seem to do you much good

[Radars in reply to Scout4answers]

I am thinking of starting ostarine, is your psa still ok mines 0.03 my testosterone has not recovered since finishing treatment in 2016 locally advanced prostate cancer invasion of seminal vessicles t3b no mo,because my testosterone has not recovered i have now been diagnosed with osteoporosis I have started creatine but doing no good with no testosterone, that's whyi am looking into ostarine and for sarcopenia and osteoporosis, I have had a reclast infusion on the 25th April.

[Scout4answers in reply to Radars]

My PSA was tested a week ago and is 0.01. Sounds like you would be a good candidate for BAT or even TRT. I do not think Osterine would elevate your T levels. Body builders use it for building muscle and bone mass, so that part would be helpful.

I am doing a new exercise routine based on the books "Body by Science" and the "Power of 10" . Very slow movements and taking muscles to failure, then 7-10 days for muscles to recover and grow. 6 weeks in so not able to evaluate results yet.

[Radars in reply to Scout4answers]

thanks, can you take ostarine long term, and I you still taking it, I am going to ask for a referral to see oncologist instead of urologist who says no to trt because he said they maybe sleeping cancer cells.

[Scout4answers in reply to Radars]

Oncologist in USA would be unlikely to offer it because it is not SOC, you would most likely have to do it on your own.

[Radars in reply to Scout4answers]

yeah but are you still taking it.

[Scout4answers in reply to Radars]

No , I have not taken it since I started the new exercise routine.

[Radars in reply to Scout4answers]

thanks, so you don't think it's safe and good for you or you would be still taking it.ok cheers.

[Scout4answers in reply to Radars]

I am not qualified to judge it's safety. I am trying to build muscle and bone mass through intense exercise.

[Radars in reply to Scout4answers]

yeah but at our age we need some help,me with severe osteoporosis I have to be careful with weights.

[Scout4answers in reply to Radars]

"Body by Science" I think you should read the book, it may change your mind.

[Radars in reply to Scout4answers]

change my mind about what,I have got no testosterone you can't make gains without it that's why I'm looking into ostarine.

[j-o-h-n]

sarms,,,,,,,,,,,,,, aren't those the paper tattoos you stuck on your arm when you were a kid?

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 07/25/2023 6:39 PM DST

[Scout4answers]

not qualified to answer your question. My interest was to build muscle and bone mass.

As I understand weight lifters cycle because it also inhibits testosterone production. I am on Lupron and Zytiga so I am ok with Suppression of T

[Radars in reply to Scout4answers]

I have got no t which has not recovered after treatment I am in 2 minds weather to use ostarine for my p/c and osteoporosis, I wish someone would convince me that it's OK long term

[MateoBeach]

SARMs do not treat PC. But they can help restore muscle loss from ADT when combined with weight training. For someone on ADT they should only consider perhaps RAD-140 which does not activate the androgen receptors. The others such as enobosarm should only be considered if on replacement testosterone or BAT programs when AR activation is okay. Osteoporosis and sarcopenia are not safe and neither is APC of course. Must weigh risks vs benefits as in all things.

[Radars in reply to MateoBeach]

I think rad-140 is a bit strong for beginners and that ostarine would be safer, I am not on adt I have locally advanced prostate cancer and osteoporosis brought on by no testosterone. I have read rad-140 increases psa.

[MateoBeach]

I don't know where or what you are reading. This study clearly says that RAD-140 was the only SARM tested that did not activate the androgen receptor and cause growth of PC cell cultures. I would (and do) use osterine/enobosarm to supplement normal or high testosterone levels. But not if on ADT and AR stimulation is undesireable. In that case RAD-140 would be my choice. Strength is all in the dosage.

[Radars in reply to MateoBeach]

Thanks, earlier post from scout4answers that rad-140 increased his psa,which do you think would be better for me,I am willing to try it for this osteoporosis brought on by my testosterone not recovered, I have my 6 monthly psa check in early September if ok I will try it.cheers.

[Radars in reply to MateoBeach]

I have been on prostate cancer website and they said keep away from sarms and that enobosarm has failed all clinical trials.

[Scout4answers in reply to MateoBeach]

This contradicts my experience

[Radars in reply to Scout4answers]

what you mean