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A couple of suggestions to make dealing with incontinence easier.

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About 12 years post RP I began having incontinence issues which totally changed my OOL. Diapers are expensive in Thailand plus the fact that your entire bottom gets wet. I came up with this simple, inexpensive way of dealing with my problem. I just wrap the little guy up in a couple of paper towels and cover them with a shortened sanitary napkin bag secured with a few 'small' rubber bands. Obviously they don't hold as much urine as diapers do which does require changing more often. I found that 'Puffs' paper towels are the best. The strange thing is that I can go seven hours at night without a pitstop and the towels are still dry.

Something that I just COULDN'T conceive of being without is Thailand's extremely common alternative to a bidet. My commodes have separate supply valves for these sprayers; however, a T and valve can be added to the existing single commode supply valve. After getting used to cleaning my bottom with this simple sprayer, I can't use a commode without it! I don't know how I ever survived for 61 years in America using TP?

If I ever go back the US for a visit, I will probably have an AUS installed. Medicare pays for nothing outside of the US and I have no insurance here.

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Shooter1 profile image
Shooter1

I installed a bidet in our bathroom here in North Idaho. What a wonderful improvement. took me 71 yrs, not just 61 like you.

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E2-Guy in reply toShooter1

TP is just so unsanitary! Whenever I went back to the US, I would always install a sprayer in the bathroom that I was using while staying with family/friends. The thing that I like about the sprayer is that you can direct it to whatever!

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KSK54 in reply toE2-Guy

You can try reusable overhead catheter. Since the time I have started using E-2 gel this incontinence problem started troubling me too. After trying many things I find it the best.

I am also now almost 12 years out after RP,SRT and now Estrogen gel. I have read some where that AUS is not very helpful for people who are on ADT.

in reply toKSK54

E-2 you think caused this?

in reply toShooter1

We took one out of our new house. Wife said she’d never use it . It’s gone

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TP Shortage can catch you up the creek.

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CAMPSOUPS in reply toShooter1

Up the creek or the creek becomes the bidet ?

in reply toShooter1

Without a paddle 😂

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E2-Guy in reply toShooter1

I just read that Costco is experiencing a TP shortage.

in reply toE2-Guy

They are hiring! Everyone part time . Walmart Costco target Hd were never shut down ! They are booming . Everything from China! Everything shaky now worldwide !

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E2-Guy in reply to

Can't imagine someone not wanting to use it!

in reply toE2-Guy

I’ve not tried one

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CAMPSOUPS

I have a poor man's bidet: Huggies wipes.

Son has a Japanese add to toilet Bidet. Its great. Heated seat. Water temp. control. All at touch of buttons.

A little creepy when you see the water ejector. Looks like an alien probe coming for you.

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Don_1213

Add on bidets start at around $75 - and they're great. Just remember to take off the control knob if small children are visiting.

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Shooter1 in reply toDon_1213

My just turned 6 grand son loves our butt washer.....

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Don_1213 in reply toShooter1

Has he hit the ceiling with the spray yet? A 5 year old did that here.. he was quite amused.

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2dee

Thanks so much for sharing the details. I'm not exactly at that point but I can see where it will be useful

2Dee

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Grumpyswife

We have $20 bidets added to both toilets. I love them but husband refuses to use them.

Great having the picture that I somehow missed seeing at first read.

Our bidets are an attachment to the toilet with a small box to the side that has the pressure control dial.

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j-o-h-n

I use a garden hose...... and water the grass at the same time.........(only at night)....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 09/24/2021 8:12 PM DST

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E2-Guy in reply toj-o-h-n

Even in the winter?

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j-o-h-n in reply toE2-Guy

Yesiree, best time. That's when I make ice sculptures......(only during the daytime).

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Saturday 09/25/2021 2:04 PM DST

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E2-Guy in reply toj-o-h-n

j-o-h-n, you are crazy!🤣

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j-o-h-n in reply toE2-Guy

You met my wife.... right?

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Saturday 09/25/2021 5:39 PM DST

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E2-Guy in reply toj-o-h-n

Many times!!

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j-o-h-n in reply toE2-Guy

And she's been miserable ever since..........

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Sunday 09/26/2021 12:14 PM DST

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E2-Guy in reply toj-o-h-n

Because I told her that I'm already taken!

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j-o-h-n in reply toE2-Guy

by me......................

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Sunday 09/26/2021 3:17 PM DST

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SPEEDYX in reply toj-o-h-n

I told her I was taken too!!

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j-o-h-n in reply toSPEEDYX

If she was drooling.... it must have been my ex-wife....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Sunday 09/26/2021 7:29 PM DST

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addicted2cycling in reply toj-o-h-n

A privacy fence can give you 24/7/365 + 1 for Leap Year to water your tush as you pleeze.

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j-o-h-n in reply toaddicted2cycling

I already have a chain link fence surrounding my property. Safe neighborhood too, most of my neighbors have outdoor security cameras.....which are active 24/7/365 + 1. Thanks for the concern.....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Saturday 09/25/2021 5:38 PM DST

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addicted2cycling in reply toj-o-h-n

j-o-h-n wrote --- " ...I already have a chain link fence surrounding my property... "

Chain link is like Superman's X-ray eyes. Can see right through them. You need what I have --- solid vinyl panels --- keeps peeping eyes from peeping in. 😜

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j-o-h-n in reply toaddicted2cycling

Geezacripe.... Why didn't I think of that?😩 Thanks for the tip....(BTW what color?)... Maybe that's why I'm called Stupidman............

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Saturday 09/25/2021 6:11 PM DST

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j-o-h-n wrote --- "...(BTW what color?)..."

UP 2 U just >>>

youtube.com/watch?v=jW4VZ5J...

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j-o-h-n in reply toaddicted2cycling

*** Click on "watch on you tube" ***

youtube.com/watch?v=U5TqIdf...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Saturday 09/25/2021 8:54 PM DST

Ok tripod! ❤️🕺

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KSK54

Lulu 700

I think now the trigger is E2 only.

After RRP in 2010 things were OK,just a few drop some times.

Then Salvage radiation in 2018 and that added a bit more.But no pads etc.

Now,since the time I have started using E2gel things worsened. So I feel all three things have contributed toward my incontinence.

E2 reduces testosterone and that causes loose muscles including kegel and other urine releasing muscles etc.

This is my view. May be wrong.

Anyway you have to bargain. But I am thankful to God. My PSA has never gone above 0.3 in the last 11 years after my RRP.

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E2-Guy in reply toKSK54

I asked Richard Wassersug (the tE2 guru) if he was aware of a correlation between E2 and incontinence, and he said that he wasn't. Perhaps Tall_Allen may reply to this?

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