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My apology to you 'gentlemen' & 'tough-guys' who are probably tired of reading my repetitious posts regarding incontinence and restroom stories; however, if this helps even one comrade, it was worth my time writing!

I have been reading numerous posts about frequent, nightly restroom trips, and I'm wondering if my bedtime 'ritual' may be of some value to a few?

After my 'failed' RRP 17 years ago (BCR, impotence and severe incontinence during waking hours), I find my nights to be a tremendous relief to this rebarbative complication. Since I've transitioned into 'more of a female' than a male (no T, boobs that most 12 year old girls would be envious of, an estradiol level in the range of a premenopausal woman, and a useless little guppy), I don't mind sharing my bathroom habits with Y'all! When at home, I never stand to urinate which I believe helps to evacuate my bladder more completely. Bidets are not very common in Thailand, but most commodes here are equipped with a small 'kitchen sink sprayer' coupled to the tank water supply valve. After using this device for 17 years, I can't even imagine how anyone can go potty without it? I do spend a considerable amount of time on the toilet during the day; however, my bedtime routine is what I believe allows me to sleep six (6) to eight (8) hours without a restroom pitstop or even 'a drop' of leakage.

I'm quite a night owl, and usually have a late night sandwich or leftovers accompanied by about 10 ounces of fruit juice or water. Shortly after, I shower, apply my tE2 gel, and spend an average of 20 to 30 minutes sitting on the toilet squeezing/shaking the little guy until I'm relatively sure that my bladder is empty.

I strongly urge those of you who are dealing with this problem to try this at bedtime to see if it helps!

Sorry for another long-winded post.

Warm wishes from abroad for a healthy & happy 2022,

Ron

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ragnar2020

Hi Ron,

Always nice to see your posts appear and know that you’re “over there” staying healthy.

I also sit to urinate having read a study someplace where a urologist measured the volume of urine that a controlled group of men eliminated while sitting down on the toilet and compared the amount to another group of men who urinated while standing.

The men who sat eliminated more urine than the standing group. So, besides not needing to turn on the bathroom light to find the target, I find sitting instead of standing extends the time between having to stumble out of bed and into the bathroom a couple times each night. I get about three hours between visits.

I added a nifty bidet toilet seat to my toilet and reduced my use of toilet paper plus now keep my anus a lot cleaner than ever before. The occasional exit hemorrhoid irritation has been greatly relieved.

This discussion causes me to remember the scene from the movie ABOUT SCHMIDT during which Jack Nichelson is peeing while sitting down, and he’s thinking about his recently dead wife. She had harassed him into sitting down to pee because while standing he repeatedly pissed on the bathroom floor.

Realizing that he was a widower, a big smile appears on his face, and he stands up and relieves himself while rotating in a 360 degree circle all over the bathroom floor. His life is slowly changing since his wife’s demise.

Take care of yourself, Ron, and keep up your practical advice.

All the best,

Jeff

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E2-Guy in reply toragnar2020

Jeff,

I loved reading your informative and entertaining reply! I hadn't heard about the 'sitting study', but it certainly makes sense to me since I can go all night long without a pitstop.

I have been 'sitting' when at home for over 50 years since it is the most sanitary way for a guy to go pee-pee. And the bidet or kitchen sink sprayer is in my opinion an absolute necessity.

I will have to watch 'ABOUT SCHMIDT'; Nicholson was always a stitch.

Thank you for the kind words...wishing you a healthy and happy 2022!

One of your bros,

Ron

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Kaliber

Thanks for the “ pointers “ ( ha ) ronron …

I sleep attached to a autopap apnea machine and getting out of bed to pee would be a big deal with my double mask setup. ( been using a cpap for over 20 years ). I use the orange juice jug beside the bed method and my daily Bluetooth report from my pap says I don’t even wake when I use the jug. I usually fill the jug half to 3/4 full every night …. peeing at least 5 - 7 times every night.

Unlike the other guys here, I cannot urinate while seated . I have to stand , and lying on my left side works best. Might be something about my tumors or mets … dunno.

Just my variation on the subject.

❤️❤️

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E2-Guy in reply toKaliber

That sounds like a 'lot of pee'!

My best to you,

Ron

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Kaliber in reply toE2-Guy

Yourine got that right yayahahaha

😵‍💫😵‍💫❤️❤️❤️

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Tall_Allen

Does it help to pee in the shower?

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spencoid2 in reply toTall_Allen

peeing in the snow is always easier. not sure why.

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E2-Guy in reply toTall_Allen

I'm not sure if "it helps"; however, IF IT’S OKAY FOR MADONNA…Madonna, Queen Of Pop (and pee apparently), once stated on the Letterman show…Madonna: "Did you know that it’s good if you pee in the shower?"

Would showering with her be considered a 'Golden Memory'?😜

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Break60 in reply toE2-Guy

😂

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London441

You have a system that works! Excellent.

My wife bought me a bidet for Christmas. I got around to installing it today and will test drive it tomorrow. Always wanted one…

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E2-Guy in reply toLondon441

A Christmas present that you will never regret or forget!

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Cramlingtonboy

People with bidets swear by them but I can't imagine spraying anything other than pleasantly warm water onto my nether regions and until that's guaranteed, I'll take my chances with tissue.

Only when peeing standing up wearing shorts, does one appreciate the collateral damage caused by splashing in all directions even when hitting the target. Like you, at night I pee sitting down in the dark and can reach under and manually coax the last few drops along the old pipe.

I was told that if you can resist turning the light on, you can get back to sleep quicker as light switches off melatonin production.

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E2-Guy in reply toCramlingtonboy

I prefer the inexpensive kitchen sink sprayer over a bidet since you can easily control the direction and flow. When urinating, I can wash just the 'guppy'! Fortunately, we have perpetual summer here so my water temp stays at about 80º all year long.

You are absolutely right about the lights.

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Break60

Ron old buddy:

Like you , my tool disappears into my scrotum like a turtle hiding from a gator. So peeing standing up is difficult unless I totally drop Trou to pull sonny out far enough to avoid spraying pee on my trousers, the floor , whatever.

Since dropping trou is not considered proper in public I usually go into a toilet and sit.

As far as waking at night I usually do go around 1 and 4 which I don’t find to be a big deal.

I had sling surgery last year and it seems to have helped with stress incontinence but I do wear one pad daily which is barely wet most of the time.

I’d like to find a way to rinse my nether region because I have bad hemorrhoids due to constipation . But I recently found a product to produce a good BM called “Peak Bioboost” which is a prebiotic made of natural ingredients. Just add a scoop to your morning hot drink and you get a BM like no other!

Well enough of this excrement talk.

Happy New Year to all you happy Pca warriors!

Bob

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E2-Guy in reply toBreak60

Fortunately my useless "tool" still allows me to wrap it in a couple of folded paper towels and a small plastic bag secured with tiny rubber bands. If it shrinks anymore I will have to wear pads or diapers. I am a candidate for either the AUS or sling surgery; however, after three failed surgeries I think that I would try to find a Dr. Kevorkian replacement before submitting to another one. RIP 'Jack'...it was really unfortunate that the government jailed this compassionate man.

I do have hard stools and occasionally suffered from hemorrhoids prior to moving to Thailand; however, my commode sprayer apparatus has totally eliminated those problems. I will see if I can find "Peak Bioboost" here since I occasionally become constipated.

Thanks Bob for your interesting replies,

Ron

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CAMPSOUPS

No worries Ron. Keep the peeeee posts coming. Let them flow!

I think they are a nice distraction from the elephant in the closet ( our cancer ).

Nice to be living just well enough to be annoyed by our pee problems.

Me too I always sat at home to pee to keep things cleaner.

Then before my dx as pee problems started showing up I had read sitting was best way to try to empty bladder.

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E2-Guy in reply toCAMPSOUPS

I'm pretty convinced that my 'sitting ritual' prior to hitting the sack is what is allowing me to go all night long without a pitstop or any leakage. Last night I went nine hours without going the toilet and my paper towels were totally dry.

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CAMPSOUPS in reply toE2-Guy

Cool. Nice indeed.

We have different histories ie. I still have prostate. But anyway I feel lucky to have no leaks and to only get up once per night to pee most nights. At times it was at least 2 sometimes 3 times a night. However I don't hydrate myself to the level I should and surely that has some effect.

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PhilipSZacarias

I love the word "rebarative". My urination frequency and urgency have increased after SBRT and HIFU, but there was a sudden change from good/decent control to significantly less control 3 months ago. Initially, I thought that I had a bladder infection, but the culture came back negative (although leucocytes were elevated, nitrites also negative). It turned out that I had dislocated either the C6-C7 or T1 vertebrae after carrying my grandson on my shoulder on a long hike through the woods. The dislocation caused a nerve to be pinched or impinged. Three months later, when I was doing some gentle neck exercises it "popped" back in to place and the urgency to urinate and frequency declined significantly. To say the least, I was surprised and relieved. I am now able to drink a cup of coffee in the morning again. Additionally, I find taking low dose THC (3-4 mg) before bed reduces the number of times I have to visit the washroom. Cheers, Phil

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E2-Guy in reply toPhilipSZacarias

Phil, I'm happy to hear that you are doing well and can enjoy that coffee again after your vertebrae has "popped back into place".

My best, Ron

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lancer82801

Ron here is a blast from the past as told by my father many years ago

"You can shake it, you can break it, you can beat it on the wall

But you have to put it in your pants to make the last drop fall"

Take care

Lance

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E2-Guy in reply tolancer82801

Love it!

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j-o-h-n

I just place my right foot in the toilet bowl and then urinate down my right leg and let it run into the toilet bowl..... No splash no mess......and it's quiet....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Wednesday 01/05/2022 6:18 PM EST

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E2-Guy in reply toj-o-h-n

What a novel way to go pe-pee!

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j-o-h-n in reply toE2-Guy

Actually I saw my ex-wife pee-ing that way....and thought "hey why not"......

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 01/06/2022 12:01 AM EDT

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E2-Guy in reply toj-o-h-n

Far out! Why did you get rid of her!

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j-o-h-n in reply toE2-Guy

That was option 1, Option 2 was suicide, 3 was murder, 4 was exorcism.......

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 01/06/2022 3:33 PM EDT

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lewicki in reply toj-o-h-n

Thanks for the chuckle.

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E2-Guy in reply toj-o-h-n

She may have been my kind of girl?

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lewicki in reply toj-o-h-n

LOL

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j-o-h-n

Sorry, but you're just in time to be too late..... She already linked up with Kim Jong-un.....

(Chonia Pola - JOHNS)...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 01/07/2022 12:34 PM EDT - Today Greek Orthodox name day for all JOHNs.

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E2-Guy in reply toj-o-h-n

Ah sh*t!

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j-o-h-n in reply toE2-Guy

LOL That's exactly most insane male's reaction......

(Chonia Pola - JOHNS)...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 01/07/2022 2:00 PM EDT - Greek Orthodox name day for all JOHNs.

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