Are foods with Vitamin E bad for PC?

[questionanything]

Should I avoid sunflower seeds, almonds, hazelnuts, salmon and avocado?

[Gemlin_]

NO!

There is most often in medicin a "U-shaped response curve" where very low or very high blood levels of a nutrient are harmful but more moderate levels are beneficial. The SELECT study showed that very high level vitamin E was associated with increased PC. It is not possible to get "very high level vitamin E" from food. Note that "very low level vitamin E" is not good either. Everything in moderation is, as always, the preferred approach .

[questionanything in reply to Gemlin_]

thank you

[noahware]

Just avoid the E pills.

[pjoshea13]

No need to avoid vitamin E in food.

Gamma tocopherol is the most common of the 8 isomers found in the U.S. diet, but alpha tocopherol is the most common found in blood. This has led researchers to assume that the body prefers alpha toc. rather than the body preferentially using-up the gamma. The isomers compete for transport, which means that an alpha toc. supplement will drive down uptake of the other 7.

PCa lab studies show that gamma toc. - not alpha toc - has anti-PCa properties. Which may explain why alpha toc. intervention studies have shown poor results. Not only is it the wrong intervention, but it actually drives down gamma toc.

I only use Delta Gold tocotrienols from annatto. The delta has been shown to be good for the heart, & lab studies show that gamma tocotrienol is even more powerful than gamma tocopherol against PCa. I wouldn't use a tocopherol supplement, but I certainly would not avoid foods that contain particular isomers.

IMO.

-Patrick

[questionanything in reply to pjoshea13]

thank you, always learning....

[CarrotBoy in reply to pjoshea13]

I also heard gamma is better than alpha. I wonder if gamma tocotrienol comes in capsules?

[questionanything]

thanks!

[Magnus1964]

They all look like good foods to me. I am a pescatarian. I don't see any harm in the list you presented.

[questionanything in reply to Magnus1964]

thanks

[Hidden in reply to Magnus1964]

do you eat dairy food (milk, cheese, butter)?

[Magnus1964 in reply to Hidden]

I eat a little cheese, no milk (almond milk), no butter (Earth Balance).

[Tall_Allen]

No. Don't worry about foods, unless you are on some bizarre diet with only one type of food.

[questionanything in reply to Tall_Allen]

thanks

[Hidden]

Hell No! These all all great foods. Don’t supplement E with pc .🤙🏽

[Hidden]

Hey Nal ! Which foods are LoadedAlpha Tocophetol ?

[j-o-h-n]

All at once.... I would.....

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[questionanything in reply to j-o-h-n]

Will share more after my 2nd MRI and possible biopsy.

[j-o-h-n in reply to questionanything]

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