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After reading here that a little Red wine can be good at slowing Metastatic cancer I figured I would try a glass last night, and thought a good way to celebrate the Chemo cycles are completed last week.

I haven't had a drop of anything since last Oct, I slept really well and don't remember a thing, my Wife said I snored like a pig lol

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That's the spirit brother, live more!

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greatjohn

I'm JEALOUS. I am up 5 or 6 times a night! Last night WAS actually pretty good...maybe something was in the air (because I didn't have any wine).

gJohn

Wine is awesome, actually posted some pictures of me and wife at Italian wine convention recently here.

But, added Bourbon to the fight, Buffalo Trace is recommended, the cancer cells love it so much, they drink to death. But, I don't have "sponsored" clinical trials to publish it.

Cheers

Nectar of the Gods .....

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NPfisherman

If you snore regularly, consider a polysomnogram--awaiting my result--I snore some...better since I lost weight....sleep apnea is bad for prostate cancer...the decrease in O2 and increase of CO2 leads to cancer progression...

Fish

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Union98 in reply to NPfisherman

The first I've heard about snoring/sleep apnea leading to progression. Is there more information on this? I'll Google it but thought you might have some back up handy. I often sleep in the other bedroom as my husband snores quite a bit. Thanks in advance.

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Break60 in reply to Union98

A sleep test would be a good idea. Sleep apnea is not good . The new CPAP machines are easy to use.

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Where can I get one of these CRAP machines? Went to Costco and they showed me some inversion induction cooker.... :(

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Kaliber in reply to

if you live in the USA, cpap machines are common and plentiful on Craigslist in the metros. people get them issued by their insurance and hate them and sell them off , unused , for nearly nothing. a $2500 cpap - apap can be had for $100 - $300 commonly. you also need the masks ( available directly on web sales and eBay etc ) setting one up , tho, meaning adjusting it for your needs is more complicated. most newer machines have testing - reporting features built right in that allow you to fine tune one exactly to your personal needs. lots about this on the web.

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Break60 in reply to

Haha: crap machines! You need to go to a sleep lab where they will wire you up and you sleep there overnight so they can determine if you stop breathing because your airway is restricted and how often during the night. If you have sleep apnea a CPAP machine will be prescribed which you use every night at home to keep your airway open with air blown into your nostrils forcing you to breath through your nose and not your mouth ( which causes you to snore) and ensuring you don’t stop breathing at night.

It’s paid for by medical insurance as is the periodic replacement of equipment as it wears out.

Bob

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NPfisherman in reply to Union98

well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012...

sleepresolutions.com/blog/s...

jcancer.org/v06p1140.htm

Sleep apnea shows increased cancer risk and the hypoxic period allows cancers to grow...It is also just darn bad for your health in general. Weight loss helps with sleep apnea and so maybe hubby should look at that while looking at getting a polysomnogram.

Good luck....

Fish

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Break60 in reply to Union98

Apnea also contributes to nocturia or frequent urination at night. CPAP stops that problem.

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tallguy2

Red wine is excellent. I even had some during chemo. Best wishes!

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Travelinman

Do me a favor. The next time that you want to celebrate, have a glass of wine again. And then, if you can handle it, have another one for me. I don’t have metastatic cancer (yet), and while I worry (like everyone here) about what comes next, I’m very happy when any one of us can have a good night. (And believe me, I have many, many a good night, but I want "all" of us to have as many of them as we can!) Stay focused on being happy and healthy.

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Zetabow

Travelinman Thanks, I will.

You kicked off a memory of my Dad 13 years ago, he had Pancreatic cancer, the only pleasure he had left in life was whisky i.e. it didn't disagree with him too much. I visited the distillery and got my hands on a 27 years old bottle of Oban. We had some good talks over a glass of Oban.

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Single Malt Highland Scotch. The best!

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leo2634

Scotch man here. Nothing like a glass of 12vyear old Dewars cast reserve while sitting in the Sum out on my patio. The only thing that makes this scenario better is the second glass. Cheers my Brothers.

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grahaminator63

How awesome! Quality of life.

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Zetabow in reply to grahaminator63

Yes Grahaminator, I was quite poorly Nov/Dec when I was first diagnosed (LOT of pain and fatigue), it feels good that my Doctor turned it around for me, I still have some pain but quality of life it much better and to enjoy some small pleasures, makes life worth fighting for.

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Stegosaurus37

I'm really curios - how did your wife learn what a pig snore sounds like?

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Kaliber in reply to Stegosaurus37

anyone , everyone that lives on a farm KNOWS !!! y ahaay ahaya aha go to your next local AG show and take a look at them there ( in the absence of living on a farm ) , sleeping and snoring . they are plenty loud.

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PAQFAS

Red wine is good for the soul and spirit and provides a splendid retreat with thoughts of sun-drenched grapes on the vines in the rows on the banks in the countryside. The deep red color, aroma and mellow taste can only be good for you (and us). Drink it all in (in moderation). Salud, chindon!

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Kaliber in reply to PAQFAS

I live in Fresno , Ca and here there are endless miles ( sq miles and sq miles and sq miles ) of AG vineyards. we have both the Almenden and Gallo facilities here as well. wine tank farms that would dwarf many - most major petroleum facilities abound here too. this is the screw cap and bladder wine capitol of the world. much of the " crush " stored here makes it's way into the 1000s of boutique California and national wineries masquerading as " specialty " wine too. I live in town but on the north edge of Fresno State AG school and am within half a block of ( maybe ) 50 verities of different kinds of grapes. when they harvest them I follow behind eating them myself ay ahay aya a the AG school has it's own wine operation and makes several wonderful types of both red and white wines that fly off the shelves here. if you want to tour serious wine country, forget Napa or Alexander valley ... come to central California where the major wine resources exist. it is, as you say ... " splendid " indeed.

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Kaliber in reply to Kaliber

caveat: don't come in the summer - late fall ... temps here are commonly over 100F in the shade and can last 60 or more days in a row sometimes. since we live next to the High Sierras, the cold air drops down into the valley at evening - night and makes about 60% of the day most pleasant .. it's the other 40% of fast rise and slow fall that is the killer. humidity is 10% - 15% tho.

j-o-h-n profile image
j-o-h-n

chocolate chip ice cream (topped with red wine) two scopes. I slept like a baby cause I peed in the bed.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 05/13/2019 8:20 PM DST

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So happy, you did not forgot the two scopes...

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j-o-h-n in reply to

Yep I was scoping out the situation to see if I could get more than two scoops...

(picky picky picky)

Que Sera Sera

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 05/13/2019 10:57 PM DST

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Kaliber

additional to NPfishermans post , related to your snoring : Apnea is nearly always a serious negative health influence and can , it's self be directly deadly for some. I've had apnea for nearly 20 years. I stop breathing over 500 times a night .. AHI 97 without a machine. with a machine AHI is .2 which is sleep better than a baby. I was breaking into spontaneous waking mental issues and had health issues having gone possibly several years without REM sleep ( along with the O2 issues NPfisherman mentions ). some people find the masks - machines hard to deal with at first but if really you need one they can be critical for your health and quality of life.

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Drphil1938

Just started cosadex this week and will start lupron next week. I have enjoyed a martini every night for years. I had assumed those days were over. Is a drink a day acceptable with these meds or is it just red wine?

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Zetabow

I'm not normally snoring, think combo of nose slightly blocked and deeply relaxed sleep. We live in countryside, we know what a PiG sounds like lol

Drphil I have no idea and didn't take the risk so I didn't drink anything during Chemo, now it's done I feel I deserve the odd glass of wine.

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