Modified citrus pectin.

[pjoshea13]

Dr-WHO posted something 3 years ago. [Dr-WHO, are you still with us?]:

healthunlocked.com/advanced...

There has now been an outside response which I think will interest some. It contains this link:

santaherb.com/affordable-mo...

-Patrick

[pjoshea13]

Apologies, I see that Simon Wong posted to the group too - not just to Dr-WHO. -P

[pjoshea13 in reply to pjoshea13]

Looks like his post was removed. I understand why, but I think it of interest. -P

[His-poo in reply to pjoshea13]

I am sorry,i was blocked by administrator,i don't know why...

[Ralph1966]

Did anyone tried Vitacost Modified Citrus Pectin -- 1500 mg per serving, it is affordable from their website, but it seems that it is not included in the above list?

[His-poo in reply to Ralph1966]

since we did not test Vitacost MCP content,if we have updated data,I will show you

[Bluebird11]

Patrick... my husband has taken this from day one of diagnosis.. then began taking it on and off during the years following...

I saved the posts you put up for further study.

My question is ... I'd love comments on the various brands. I did write about Thorne on the old post. It was considered superior to the Eliaz brand at one time.

Does anyone know if any of these companies picked up Thorne's work on this. We'd be interested.

Thanks..

[pjoshea13 in reply to Bluebird11]

I suspect that the companies saw that there was a market & that they could insert competitive products with decent profit margins. But I am a cynic.

I will contact the better brands & ask why their products might be more effective for cancer.

I still regret that Thorne scrapped their better product & not sell the Eliaz product.

-Patrick

[His-poo in reply to pjoshea13]

every brand MCP they are making formula,the most important think is how much MCP content is included into their final product

[softwaremom00]

My husband takes this.. He is thinking of stopping it. He takes so many empty stomach supplements, I think he finds it annoying and he thinks it makes him queasy..(He takes Ip6, this, Turkey Tail, and Beta Glucan) Plus the Eliaz product is about 98$ a container. Any thoughts ? Should I let him stop ? He has neuroendocrine prostate cancer, diagnosed in June of 2017. Scans have been good this month.(which makes me happy)

hugs, prayers and love to you all!

Softwaremom.

[pjoshea13 in reply to softwaremom00]

A small tumor can release many thousands of cells into the circulation every day. The body is actually pretty good at zapping them, but it is tempting to believe that short-chain pectin can further reduce the chance of metastasis, by binding to circulating PCa cells & thereby neutralizing them.

I subscribe to the view that the survival of circulating cells - and the eventual docking at a favorable location - is tied to altered coagulation. I use nattokinase every day, at a dose that keeps D-dimer (a sign of a clot) to near zero. Without microclots, I think that chance of metastasis is much reduced.

I do have some of the Eliaz product, but don't worry if I skip a day or week. I don't view the product as essential. IMO.

Having said that, I think it might have been very valuable in the years before I began using nattokinase.

The price annoys me too. I suspect that the profit margin is very high. The raw ingredient can't cost much.

-Patrick

[softwaremom00 in reply to pjoshea13]

Thanks. A great post!

Softwaremom

[His-poo in reply to softwaremom00]

Yes,the Marigin is big,too expensive

[SuppWife in reply to pjoshea13]

Would you mind sharing the dose of nattokinase you use?

[pjoshea13 in reply to SuppWife]

Ah, it's a larger dose that most will need. It's based on maintaining a near-zero D-dimer.

I can't give you a one-dose-fits-all answer, but I suspect that men with PCa need more than the standard 2,000 FU dose. Too often, men will take the one cap & think they are protected.

When I stopped Warfarin after 3 months, with only one of two DVTs cleared, I started with 6 caps (12,000 FUs). This was nor enough to get ahead of the clot, so I increased to 6 caps twice daily.

In time, I fell back to 6 caps daily. When I tried a lower dose, D-dimer increased slightly. I want it to be as close to zero as LabCorp can measure.

-Patrick

[SuppWife in reply to pjoshea13]

Thank you so much. I had to google D-dimer. I’d never heard the term. I appreciate your posts. Thanks so much for the response.

[Hidden in reply to softwaremom00]

The requirement to take it on an empty stomach discouraged me from using it. I suppose I could take it once a day in the evening.

[Hidden]

I was wondering about Dr Who too. He was an active poster not long ago and now silence. Have we lost another fighter?

[His-poo in reply to Hidden]

Dr Who also posted a lot on MCP?

[Ralph1966]

nattokinase? Can we buy this from Amazon? Any recommended brand?

[pjoshea13 in reply to Ralph1966]

swansonvitamins.com/nutrico...

swansonvitamins.com/doctors...

I always wait for Swanson to offer a big discount. Happened yesterday: additional 25% off.

Nalakrats prefers VitaCost.

-Patrick

[Ralph1966 in reply to pjoshea13]

Vitamin K which most of us taking will work against blood thinning/platelets aggrigation. Should we stop vitamin K?

[pjoshea13 in reply to Ralph1966]

Vitamin K is essential for normal coagulation. A deficiency interferes with the function of a number of coagulation factors (II, VII, IX, and X).

When there is K sufficiency, additional K has no effect at all on normal coagulation.

Warfarin (Coumadin) inhibits an enzyme (vitamin K epoxide reductase) required for factors II, VII, IX, and X. Other anticoagulants target other factors, or in such a way that normal vitamin K levels can be maintained.

Unless on Warfarin, continue with vitamin K2.

-Patrick