My husband stopped drinking coffee in additional to many other dietary changes at diagnosis. But an article in the new Life Extension Magazine lists coffee as something that should be consumed daily.
Would love to hear what you all are doing / not doing in this regard.
Thank you so much!
Oh no!
Tell him to drink extra coffee to make up for his mistake!
This is what I posted 2 years ago:
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-Patrick
Excellent this is great - many thanks. Can't express my gratitude enough.
I would suggest not drinking coffee late in the day. It can cause you to miss a good nights sleep by needing to get up frequently to pee. Also, one comment concerning beef. True grass fed beef is loaded with omega-3 and just as healthy as cold water fish. It is the grain the animals are fed that is bad for us.
Agreed on both the late coffee drinking and the grass fed beef.
If I drink coffee past 5pm I won’t sleep well .
Reason # 1 I don’t drink coffee because it bothers my already screwed up urology.
How about trying a neat whiskey, Lulu700 ?? 
A large Lagavulin, no rocks. Sip it slowly. Best enjoyed with fillet mignon (grass fed), medium rare.
Cheers, Lulu700 !!
Now you’re speakin my language! What time s dinner?
How about you turning up at 6pm ??
Then we settle down with some superb whiskey and some delicious snacks.
Next, steak with some great trimmings.
Finally, as Tall_Allen has assured us that "sugar" is not proven bad for MPC, I can offer you dollops of Haagen Dazs (lots of flavours) or caramel creme brulee or chocolate souffle. And, maybe a cognac ? With a Cuban cigar ?
Cheers, Lulu700 !!
I’ll be there early ..With bells on Amigo..We need to Get some good days in whenever possible .. bananas foster w/ cappuccino , followed by a cohiba and some Louis tre.? Speedy recovery brother..
lol, lol, lol.....hahahahahaha.....cheers, Lulu700.....enjoy life
Thank you - great info - great on the organic and distilled water which we do - am going to brew now! Much appreciated.
For sure - thanks for the info about the grass fed beef - he keeps going back and forth about this - should he eat it or not. Very helpful, thank you.
Stop googling random internet sites and throw away Life Extensions (which is in the business of getting you to buy unproven supplements (which are drugs)). Get information ONLY from real evidence.
There has never been a randomized clinical trial, but the best evidence so far is from a Mendelevian randomization study. They found there was no causal association between coffee intake and prostate cancer mortality among men with prostate cancer:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...
A recent large European cohort study also found no association:
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...
Based on the best evidence so far, there is no reason to limit coffee intake.
Thank you for your reply which I assume is well intended (in spite of the beginning imperative which assumes facts not in evidence).
I'm on this site for support which I've received in abundance, with the exception of your post.
My husband's first doctor (an MD/PhD from Sloan) recommended Life Extension and we have subscribed ever since, we have even been fortunate to meet several MDs on their advisory board over the years - all of whom were quite impressive.
I too am on this site for support which is what you’ll find the large majority of the time. Great bunch of folks. As with anything, you’ll come across some who will be a bit abrasive but in most cases unintentionally. Tall_Allen has offered great advice over the years but it is sometimes delivered with an edge.
You wrote "But an article in the new Life Extension Magazine lists coffee as something that should be consumed daily." How is that "assuming facts not in evidence"? My post was probably the most supportive you got - I don't consider stoking your confirmation bias to be supportive.
Someone is jonesing for an argument, that someone is not me.
Will leave it at this: I find many of your posts informative and appreciate them.
Namaste.
I quit and don’t miss it. A cup once in awhile.. for me my digestion is better without ...
Ole’ coffee!
This website is very supportive.
Please don't take offense as I doubt it is no meant to be offensive.
Yay for coffee !!
Thank you!
I drink coffee everyday. I have zero dietary restrictions. Do yourself a favor and discuss dietary recommendations with your Medical Oncologist and your Cardiologist.
GD
I still drink around 6 large strong mugs daily. Plus minimum 5 pints of water. No I'll effects from either after 8 years PCa and my Consultant MedOnc says carry on as normal and don't worry about diet. Be happy she adds. And I am.
I don't know if its good or bad for you but I am not giving up my coffee. It is one of life's little pleasures. I drink many cups a day. I am unaware of any negative side effects(at least in regards to my cancer).
I'm so with you on that one! We are trying to remember why my husband gave it up in the beginning - and can't
Hi, My husband gave up coffee because it is acidic. Post RRP (2014) he was advised to avoid acidic & spicy foods/drinks because they were/are deemed to be bladder irritants & would make him pee more. He gave up all coffee (uses that grain stuff for a morning cuppa) & all alcohol. I'm not sure he needs to be so scrupulous about it now, but it's in his nature to be scrupulous so I let it be. I will say it makes meal-preparation more challenging for me!
That is my husband as well. Once he receives advice and is convinced of the science, it takes quite a bit for him to abandon. But thankfully, he's back to having a cuppa and loving it.
I eat and drink anything I want. We are all on borrowed time anyway with or without PC so I enjoy everyday I'm still here. I think I'll make a lot of coffee now.
Bam!!! I just made some sourdough bread and having some toast with an expresso!!
I would advise : Skip a cup or two of coffee and have a large peg of whiskey with lunch or dinner Seriously.
I didn't mention I like my Dewars Scotch too !!!
As I write this I am enjoying a lovely single malt scotch! (It's probably blasphemy but I did this during chemo, too!)
You drank WHISKEY during chemo ??? Maan, you are something else, tall
My nursing staff and quacks would probably kick me out if I even suggested I drink during chemo.
Cheers, tallguy2 !! Enjoy life !!
I think if on chemo then cut down as hydrating fluids are more important.
I would avoid caffeine after 6pm personally but not heard or read it has negative affects for PCa.
I switched to decaf because cancer meds (ADT) were raising my blood pressure.
Same for me. I was loving my afternoon triple shot latte and my blood pressure on ADT was way too high. Off the caffeine and BP is normal again.
After chemo all I could get down was lemonade , and water. Slowly my taste buds came back and I am back to my 2 cups of coffee a day. My nutritionist said eat and drink anything you can stand as the cancer will make its own sugar . Don’t stop life ,enjoy what you like. Fight the good Fight
Thank you - agree! And thanks for your positivity!
I agree 110%. Thank you!
I’m on the fence on this issue. I also get Life Extension magazine and use a couple of their supplements (Pomegranate and Milk Thistle), but I agree with Tall that Life Extension (et al) is not a bona fide source of medical evidence. They are a huge company in business to sell you herbals and other supplements, always with ague claims of the wonderful things they do followed by the disclaimer that what they sell you is not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. The problem with most supplements, including those sold by Life Extension and their team of doctors and researchers, is that there frequently is not enough evidence to support their claims, determine their efficacy, determine what dosages provide a positive benefit, determine side effects and drug interactions at an efficacious dosage, and evaluate the bioavailability of the supplements. You could literally be peeing your money down the toilet. So...Let the buyer beware.
On the other hand, I feel that we cannot rely solely on full blown clinical trials for everything we use. There just isn’t enough time, money, or researchers to allow for that, and the big pharma companies aren’t going to spend their research money and time on supplements that can be obtained cheaply over the counter. I have read several articles from what I feel are reliable sources, with at least some compelling anecdotal evidence that certain supplements and drugs have some positive benefits in causing apoptosis, or at least blocking the progression of cancer cells. Some may not do much on their own, but may work synergistically with our prescribed medications to improve their anti-cancer properties and length of time they will continue to work. Who knows? I don’t think that we can just totally and completely write them off and ignore the small (albeit not controlled) studies that show benefits of certain supplements.
It is incumbent upon the PCa patient to do his own research and, before starting any supplement, discuss the use of a given supplement with his medical oncologist at least to the point of making sure they won’t do any harm, even if the MO feels they may not help you. My MO knows about everything I take. And while he doesn’t always agree that they might be helpful (his favorite phrase is “that is controversial”), he also allows me to use them (maybe for the placebo effect, lol) because they won’t hurt me either, and just might help.
It remains an enigma, wrapped up in a mystery, boxed in a conundrum for those of us who are just trying to battle this insidious and formidable disease and stay alive. To that end, we shouldn’t be guided by desperation, but by knowledge.
Note that even this website contains a disclaimer that the content on HealthUnlocked does not replace the advice we get from our medical providers.
If you consider using any supplement, or using any other complementary or alternative treatment, don’t just rely on a couple of You Tube videos, some of which are totally bogus, but consider the source of the information, their motives, do your own research, and consult with your MO before buying or initiating their use.
There is no “my way or the highway.” We are all fallible to some degree, and there is still much that is unknown about the intricacies of cancer progression and resistance to the currently available drugs and treatments. Is there a magic bullet out there that will some day cure advanced PCa or at least make it a chronic condition? We can only hope and pray that they find it in our lifetimes. Like everyone else here, my thoughts and comments are not the gospel truth or even recommendations for any of you... just my own humble, non-medical feelings and observations.
Bless you all. Please remember that even if we sometimes disagree, we are all in this together. Keep it positive. Have a blessed and beautiful day! Whew!
Mark
I never was told coffee was a problem per se except that for PCa patients it could irritate their sensitive urinary tract during radiation.
You would have to kill me to get a mug of coffee out of my hand, so I think I'll take my chances with the prostate cancer...…It hasn't killed me yet......:))
me too!
We drink it all day.
And in fact it's doing you good! We really missed the ball on this one. But better late than never!
I still enjoy 3 cups of coffee a day, and about that much in adult beverages, too. Not letting MPCa run my life.
Agreed, you can live in fear or live life. The beast will get you at some time so enjoy the simple pleasures while you can.
Atención amigos y clientes.
Please drink all the coffee you can every day.
Gracias!
Juan Valdez.
Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.
j-o-h-n Monday 11/19/2018 10:29 PM EST
I drink one or two cups in the morning then I switch to green tea ( Yama Moto Yama green tea). Lots of tea. I prefer the Japanese sencha.
Are you still making any long term plans or commitment to long term projects?
Are there any foods that might taste slightly good while on Docetaxel and Xtandi?
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