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What would you change to this Prostate Cancer Regimin?

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Here are my prostate cancer resolutions. What would you change to them?

1. I really need to stay away from carbs and sweets. LOL

2. Keep up the exercise.

3. Put cruciferous vegetables back on the menu. Yechh

4. I need to re-evaluate vitamin e.

5. Either no eggs (or just whites of eggs)? And no beef or pork.

6. Changing from 2% milk to skim milk.

7. No chicken that is cooked with the skin.

8. Stick to Olive and Avocado oil (I will continue to avoid canola oil because of Dr. Myers heavy emphasis to run away from it)

9. Almonds and almond butter is good.

10. “Consumption of healthy oils and nuts increases plasma antioxidants and reduces insulin and inflammation, which may deter prostate cancer progression,” So maybe I revisit antioxidant supplements like resveratrol, curcumin, and Lef.org's MacuGuard.

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MontyB profile image
MontyB

Good resolution list!

For me I would add :

"de-stress / minimize stress / relax"

and maybe "go fishing".

Take Care, Monty

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Canoehead

I would put beef back on the menu and eliminate milk completely. There are multiple books that discuss these two items, so I will only add my very brief two cents. 1. We evolved to eat meat, hence the term hunter gatherer. I much prefer beef to chicken, because I think chicken is much more likely to be contaminated with hormones, antibiotics, bacteria and injected salt. 2. Ask yourself what animal consumes the milk of another species, or even what animal consumes any milk after infancy?

I also think, with due respect to Tall Allen, that there’s enough info on resveratrol and curcumin that those two are no brainers.

Good luck and good health.

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cesanon in reply to Canoehead

"We evolved to eat meat, hence the term hunter gatherer."

I don't think it is that simple. What little Academic research there is, contradicts the well-publicised assumptions of popular diet authors. My understanding of the research is that it indicates there was likely little meat in the diets of hunter gatherers, though certainly gene pools near the ocean developed around a fishing diet, and the plains indians had a good diet of buffalo. But it would appear that most of us are not designed to be heavy meat eaters.

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Currumpaw

Eliminate dairy. The lowly aspirin has been shown in studies to prevent metastases. Watch Dr. Greger's YouTube video on eggs, meats, choline and prostate cancer recurrence. Funny that you want to avoid chicken with skin. The Harvard study Dr. Greger cites found that fried chicken legs had less choline than sautéed, skinless, chicken breasts. The researchers surmised that the skin insulates the meat from the heat. The only meat found which didn't produce choline was mutton. Mary had a little lamb--It would seem that choline from animal products may be those which are dangerous but choline from vegetable sources are fine. My question about this study is, does the heat of cooking animal sourced foods produce or increase the amount of choline? It would seem so as rare beef had less choline than well done--if my memory is correct. It usually is.

Read about Ruth Heidrich.

You mentioned Dr. Myers. He was ahead of his time in prescribing Metformin for his patients. Review studies on Metformin as an anti-aging and anti-cancer drug. Berberin is a natural supplement acting similarly as Metformin does. LifeExtension sells a supplement, AMPK, that also acts similarly. If you aren't on a statin maybe you should do a low dose 10 mg. Again, review studies.

Since you mentioned vitamin E. Stay away from synthetic vitamin E. Read the studies.

Bromelain and bioperine will help your body digest and utilize those hard to absorb nutrients such as curcumin.

Currumpaw

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cesanon in reply to Currumpaw

Chicken skin = animal fat

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leo2634

I asked my Doctor if I should restrict my diet in any way and he said I could eat anything i want in moderation. My thoughts are we have this terrible condition so if I enjoy a good prime rib once in awhile,or a few pieces of fried chicken I'm going to do it . I don't think that indulging once in awhile will add or subtract any years to my life. I intend to live my life to the fullest for whatever time I have left ,again that is just my opinion and not intended to have a debate over. Never give up never surrender Brothers.

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j-o-h-n

11. Cut down on your sex life....

Good Luck and Good Health.

J-o-h-n Saturday 07/07/2018 11:28 AM EDT

George71 profile image
George71

"ROS vs. metastases.

In many types of tumors including prostate cancer, melanoma and breast cancer, the increased metastatic ability of tumor cells is positively related to their intracellular ROS level.

Exogenously administration of ROS would enhance certain stages

of metastatisis, while anti-oxidant treatment could attenuate

metastatic progress.

Even surgical procedures, a primary option for treating tumors, can lead to the increased growth of metastatic tumors by ROS generation.

Possible mechanisms involve aber-rant expression of integrins and MMPs and suppression of anoikis, as indicated by in vitro studies.

Intriguingly, Ishikawa K. and his colleagues recently have provided direct evidence to confirm the causative relationship between ROS and tumor metastasis. After

replaced with mitochondria DNA (mtDNA) derived from a highly

metastatic mouse tumor cell line, an originally poorly metastatic

cell line acquires the metastatic potential. The transferred mtDNA

contain mutations producing a deficiency in respiratory complex I

activity and are associated with overproduction of ROS. Pretreatment

of the highly metastatic tumor cells with ROS scavengers suppresses

their metastatic potential in mice."

tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10....

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cesanon in reply to George71

George17

"After

replaced with mitochondria DNA (mtDNA) derived from a highly metastatic mouse tumor cell line, an originally poorly metastatic cell line acquires the metastatic potential. The transferred mtDNA contain mutations producing a deficiency in respiratory complex I activity and are associated with overproduction of ROS."

So this supports the use of antioxidant supplements or discourages the use of antioxidant supplements?

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George71 in reply to cesanon

Use of anti-oxidants is widely supported (having been proven to slow cancer progression with thousands of studies).

In general use of anti-oxidants before and after therapy (chemo or radiation) not during -- because chemo and radiation are intended to create ROS to kill cancer cells -- which are generally believed to be more vulnerable to ROS).

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cesanon in reply to George71

George

How do you balance that with the studies referred to in this discussion?

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George71 in reply to cesanon

I think we all agree that years of smoking / exposure to chemicals / sun etc cause cancer. Build up of toxic chemicals and free radicals over years. Anti-oxidants are over all healthy and eliminate free radicals. No doubt taking in a lot of free radicals that are clearly harmful to the body will hurt the cancer cells too but at a cost of heart failure or lung cancer.

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George71 in reply to George71

All cells (healthy or cancerous) need some ROS to trigger natural apoptosis etc. but too much ROS (sometimes as a result of too many free radical pollutants) seems to be what triggers mutations and cancer and therefore cancer cells have more ROS activity and cannot stand as much ROS (generated by chemo or radiation) as a healthy cell and they die. The problem is the chemo also weakens the immune system and health cells, so soon after chemo treatment -- anti-oxidants are very good.

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Rmanns

I eat a sensible, balanced diet including occasional ice cream, beer and cheeseburgers. I have enough to stress over

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ARIES29

I agree guys,enjoy life while you can

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