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Calling for diet do’s and don’ts for APC:

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Would appreciate replies with your top 5 foods to add to diet, and top 5 foods to avoid, and why. (if you have more than 5, feel free)

I see all kinds of diets out there, however, none seem to have the APC specific focus and knowledge I’ve seen in various threads here. Looking to consolidate! Thx, Leo

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Canoehead profile image
Canoehead

Michael Pollan says, “eat food, not too much, mostly plants.” If you want more in depth, read the book, How Not To Die. My daughter gave it to me for Christmas, and I fully believe that adopting a pure plant based diet is a factor in my good initial response to treatment. I also think everyone agrees that cruciferous vegetables are very good anti cancer food. Best to you.

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LF27 in reply to Canoehead

Thanks for the reply. Funny timing - my wife just brought this book home from the library and I have it in front of me now. And, I'm enjoying a smoothie with cauliflower as I write! Thx and be well.

in reply to LF27

You’re on the right path...

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tetech

Avoid dairy, chicken skin, chicken eggs, processed meat, B vitamins and excess sugar.

More red cabbage, oats, broccoli, Black Beans, Lentils (with tomato paste) & weekly Alaska Wild Salmon.

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LF27 in reply to tetech

Thanks. I've been transitioning from your line 1 to 2. Debating the annual corned beef right now! Gonna miss the hash and eggs that typically followed.

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What ! No more pizza and ice cream ??? Go for the Irish plate on saint patty’s.. Traditions and celebrations should be enjoyed ..

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smroush

UCSF has one of the better publications on prostate cancer and diet. It can be found online at: cancer.ucsf.edu/_docs/crc/n...

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Litlerny

The UCSF article is very good and very comprehensive. Thank you smroush for that contribution.

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Magnus1964

I became a vegetarian days after being diagnosed. There are lots of books on cancer and diet. My diet is lots of fruits and vegetables. Stay organic, no GMOs, stay natural, more whole foods, less packaged foods. Stay away from sugar ( I do cheat with dark chocolate, love it.)

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LF27 in reply to Magnus1964

Thanks. Yes, lots of books, websites, etc. And, the input from this group is invaluable. I've increased fruits and vegetables substantially, and buy organic whenever possible. Have also cut way back on sugar - although I'm seeing some debate on the link to cancer...

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Magnus1964 in reply to LF27

I stay away from high fructose corn syrup, i.e., I drink Mexican Coca Cola, not too much.

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That mexi-coke is the best con tacos..

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TenscTexan

Just came from MD Anderson Houston, (wow, what a facility) and saw an MO for a second opinion. I am mCRPC, started Zytiga 3 weeks ago. We asked about diet and being advanced, he said look, try and eat more vegetables and green plant items, but eat what you want. If there is one thing to "try" and avoid it is red meat, any meat from cattle.

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That’s not Texan..

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As a Colorado girl raised in ranch country... I think they will eventually learn that it's all the chemicals pumped into the animal, that makes the difference. If you have all natural grass fed on the range beef, there is a huge difference. That goes for all meat and eggs.

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Yes that’s a holistic belief if not vegan. ❤️ Co. Rocky Mountain high. My grandparents homesteaded in Co , then Dad in Loveland and us in Vallcito in family cabin to beat the desert heat and thrive on the air at 7800 feet. Palisades peaches mmmm..

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AuburnAngel in reply to

I'm just a little farther north of Loveland and yes, there's nothing better than a ripe Palasade peach.

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TenscTexan in reply to AuburnAngel

That makes a lot of sense getting range beef. I doubt they give those cattle in feed lots any shots of testosterone and steroids before we see the finished product. Anyone know of a fast food chain that offers that kind of meat? (Humor & Sarcasm)

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There is Habit burger, grass feed gourmet burgers to die for. Cal . Company but on the stock market and will,expand.

LF27 profile image
LF27

Thanks for the reply and good luck with your battle. And yes, red meat is a rarity these days.

Eat in moderation and exercise. Don't gain weight. If you are overweight do something about it. A previous post here cited research that showed that overweight men are at much higher risk for prostate cancer recurrence after treatment. I've got 10 lbs I need to lose. I refuse to go vegan or adopt a weird diet. That's just me.

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I can tell you that of all of the gentlemen I,did treatments with most over 70 , almost all of them were not giving up red meat and the bad stuff. I understand it. Food is one of our great enjoyments in life. I felt I was young at 53 with a tuff dx . I was willing to do just about anything to spend more days with my then girlfriend now my wife. We ‘ ve completely gone organic whole food holistic diet. The docs say my blood is all great. I don’t believe that I’d be as good or live as long if I hadn’t made a drastic change. Once you get into eating this way you won’t want to go back.. We do have cheat days once in awhile,and I went a little overboard over the holidays. Now back on track. So each to his own . Good luck and health to you.

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I still love the aroma of bacon, sausage and other old familiar meats, but there is no way I would ever go back to eating them. I look at a picture of a Big Mac and I can taste it. But then I love the smell of second hand smoke.

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Very funny! I used to love all the stuff we can’t eat. Eat to live, but a little cheatin once in awhile, oh well! I never smoked but I love the smell of weed. If you do decide to rarely eat some red meat only a small portion. Once you stop it’s difficult to digest.

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Magnus1964 in reply to

I know I have a friend that had been a vegetarian for years and then went to dinner with friends and eat meat. She went home a got sick.

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That happens. Can’t digest it ..

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MartinSpurs

Eat a healthy, balanced diet, I have never seen any research that shows that any weird diet works. In my view it is far more important to enjoy life and to me that includes eating and drinking what I want to have but within reasonably healthy guidelines for anyone with or without cancer. Don't forget to exercise.

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Good advise. Enjoying life is most important . Within healthy reason on diet. Exersize really does combat the blues and improves everything .

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BigRich

I did not eat red meat for 5 years. Before that, I ate 75 lbs. of red meat a month; however, now I eat 12 oz. of red meat,less then a lb.a month. I eat 8 oz. of chicken a week, and 11 Oz a fish a week.

I eat no dairy, no egg yolks, and mostly whole grains and veggies and fruit. I drink black bold coffee, seltzer,V-8 juice, and spring water.

Rich.

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Does your digestion feel better?

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BigRich in reply to

Yes. low sodium, v-8, egg whites two times a week, Turkey breast, skinless, 7 oz. once a week. Carrots and chick peas or humus to increase my SBGH. No processed food. Tomato sauce and v-8 for lycopene.

Rich

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All sounds good to me! I still love to eat . I just try to eat healthy..

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BigRich in reply to

By you eating healthy, it helps in addition to fighting PCa, but also your heart and vascular system.

Rich

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Both challenged by APC & treatments ..Happy St.Pats day ! Don’t drink no green beer! 🤑But I used to love the corned beef dinner. Mmm...

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BigRich in reply to

My lodge is having corned beef dinner and green beer, However, I will enjoy the fellowship with a veggie plate and spring water.

Go for the long haul.

Rich

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Whoa! The key point is that you are Frickin enjoying life good sir. Go spring water. I never darank that green beer. Whiskey! That’s another story.

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BigRich in reply to

Irish Mist was delightful, however, I enjoy Poland spring water from Maine.

Rich

LF27 profile image
LF27

Thanks. So, egg whites? Been thinking of that, to eat on occasion, instead of losing eggs altogether.

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jdm3 in reply to LF27

Is it the choline in the egg yolks? Egg whites are okay?

I miss eggs and I miss BBQ, but all things considered, eating mainly plant-based diet has been interesting and fun.

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LF27 in reply to jdm3

Here's what I found on this:

"By far and away, most of the choline in these foods is found as phophatidylcholine, a membrane-bound phospholipid. As a result, it’s found in the yolk of the egg and not in the white. A 100-gram serving of egg yolk has 683 mg of choline, whereas a similar serving of egg white has only 1.1 mg. For an equal amount of each, then, you’d get three times more choline out of your eggs if you threw away the whites."

chrismasterjohnphd.com/2010...

and this:

naturalmedicinejournal.com/...

Think I'll move away from eggs toward oatmeal, smoothies, fruit, etc. for breakfast from now on...

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