New Member. Thank you. I cured lung cancer and now need help with husbsnd's Prostate PSA 25 and cancer.

[TerriandMark]

Hi, In 2014 when in hospital for a deadly venomous fish stabbing my foot a doctor informed me I had lung cancer. Pulmonologist first sentence to me was that he was going to cut out my left lung. I was shocked and frightened, but told him to jump in a lake and never returned. I used ever known Cancer cure I could find, a Pearl M Resonant Light Tech RIFE, ACHH, juicing greens and 4 lemons a day, Essiac Tea, Organic foods and Apple Cyder Vinegar. I also had terrible pains for 3 years from the venom neurotoxins and ocean domic acid poisoning, amnesia shellfish poisoning, paralytic shellfish poisoning and murmured poisoning. Doctors said I would die in 4 hours. I was very sick. Cancer on top of this was a challenge. Now my Pulmonologist smiles and after 1 year and 6 months (3 six month checkups) my Cancer has encapsulated itself in a shrunken 2 inch granuloma. RIFE is incredible and saved me thru many phases from septic, nights I thought I would die, to ridding fuzz feeling in my mouth for months from such chemical changes in my body. My family even threatened to take charge of my life because my husband and I chose not to allow chemo or cutting out parts that I would need when I healed, as Dr Hulda Clark's book A CURE For All Cancers stated. It was frightening but worth my decision not to follow allopathic methods. I am not saying thatvis,wise for anyone. I am just a Hugh coward in hospitals.

NOW, My wonderful supportive husband has Prostate Cancer. His PSA was twice at PSA 25. He took Essiac Tea and Men's Formula 3 pills each x twice a day. He used RIFE a few times but we were on the road and machine is fragile, $7000 and difficult to take. His PSA dropped in 45 days down to PSA 16. We are continuing all that I did for lung cancer.

My question is, does anyone know if a lower PSA actually knows if that correlates to less Cancer? Can you have a low PSA and still have the cancer? I read one man who cam way down on his PSA but Cancer was in his bones.

Also we are so greatful and open to learn and try anything other,wish to share.

Thank you warmly.

Terri

[gusgold]

Hulda Clark claims all cancer is caused by liver flukes and the cure is wormwood...I was just about to take 7 wormwood capsules when I learned Hulda died from Cancer. At first they put out Hulda chocked to death eating tree bark but an autopsy proved she died from Cancer....I am sticking with the Warren Buffett's, DQ Cure, of 1 Double Cheeseburger - Large Fries - Milk Shake - Blizzard

[TerriandMark in reply to gusgold]

Thank you for your words of wisdom. Do you have PC? If so what path did you take? Is it working? Do you recomend allowing prostate removal? What removal method? Does anyone believe biopsies and cutting allows spread of cancer??? Yes, my sister was furious at me 4 years ago when I did Dr Clark. It did kill a bunch of wierd critters from my ocean wound but cant say what fixed my lungs for certain. Much appreciation. Love any advice for my husband. We are new st this PC.

[TerriandMark in reply to gusgold]

Gusgold, Have you heard of Proton Therapy? Do you hear good or not so good reports?

[BigM62]

I had PSA 11 and still had extensive stage 4. Three months before PSA was 3.5. Cancer was definately there way before PSA was 11.

[TerriandMark in reply to BigM62]

Wow, how frightening for you. What are you doing for cancer? Has anything helped? Do you wish you had done anything differently? Do you recomnend cutting orostate out before it spreads? How long have you been fighting it? I am so sorroy forcakl you have been threw. I understand. Thank you BigM

[Hidden]

If you could give us a history of his diagnosis and details such as dates, biopsy results, etc. we could offer more help.

[TerriandMark in reply to Hidden]

Yes. Mark had a physical at age 50 and his PSA was 10. Doctor sort of mentioned it wad high but nothing was done. At age 60 and it was 12. Nothing was done and doctors didnt really set off alarms. Nothing was done.

At age 62 and in ou (Dec 2017) in a different state, insurance and new doctors, his PSA was 25. We are JUST in the processes now. Mark has alwas been big and strong but his eyes look tired and sick. He was injured in testicles in highschool football and has some sort of numbness when having sex on just one side. Never could have children. Not sure if this has any importance or not?

Primary referred Mark to Urologist approx middle of Jan 2018. Waited for appointment at end of month. We immediately began juicing with celantro, kale, beets, lemons, greens, carrots, parsley. Mark stopped having his nightly Scotch and began CBD.

Took 3-4 Essiac Tea pills x 3 times a day. Took 3-4 Mens Formula x 3 times a day.

End of January 2018 his Urologist said in exam that the right side of his prostate was enlarged. He had a Full Body Bone Scan with Contrast and the doctor said there was NO cancer spread to his body.

A biopsy was scheduled for future.

About 45 days later we asked for another PSA and jas gone down to 16 PSA.

Feb biposey just done

Thank you. Look forwad to learning our options. My husband loves his sex. Much appreciation.

[Hidden in reply to TerriandMark]

Sounds like you just had the biopsy and don't have the results yet. It's possible he doesn't even have cancer. If the biospy shows that there is cancer, it's also important to look at what is called the "Gleason Score". That helps determine how agressive the cancer is and he may not want to do any treatment depending on the result. All treatments have side effects as I'm sure you know by now.

Good luck and let us know what they find.

[TerriandMark in reply to Hidden]

Greg57,

Thank you do much. No, we have not heard of the gleasom score, so we will ask Mark's Uroligist. We ladies will seek anything so our dear husbands dint hurt or die. I appreciate your help. Do you have any experience with Proton Therapy?

Warmly Terri

[Hidden]

You can also have a PSA outside of what is considered normal range with zero Pca.

[larry_dammit]

Think if you want to know, get a full blood panel, a good oncologist can read it , looking at the alkaline number is where they found my mets ,then a ct scan with contrast

[TerriandMark in reply to larry_dammit]

Larry, Thank you so much. I am leatning so much from all of you. We will do. This asap. Do you know anything about Protin Therapy or Cyber Knife?

Much appreciation

Terri

[TerriandMark in reply to TerriandMark]

Sorry for typos, i am on small phone, just out of hospital shaky, and on hwy 5 bumpy.

[Hidden in reply to TerriandMark]

From everything I've read, there has been no benefit reported with Proton therapy over conventional photon (x-ray) radiation. Theoretically, protons have a very high LET (linear energy transfer) which means they release all of their energy over a much shorter distance than traditional x-ray radiation. But the theoretical benefit has not translated into an actual benefit, so it only is better in theory. The cost for protons however is much, much higher and few places do it.

You should also check with your insurance to see if it woud be covered. Here's an article:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

[TerriandMark in reply to Hidden]

Greg, Thank you. I trust NIH site and had overlooked going to it gor answers, so you reminded me to seek answers there also. We are learning so much from this site and appreciate your help. I hope you heal well. Terri

[TommyTV]

Not happy at all with this post. Anyone else more than a little sceptical? All the Alternatives to Therapy we know don’t work suddenly appear to work?

[Hidden in reply to TommyTV]

I thought you were wrong, but looks like you called it.

[Twoofus]

I agree with Tommy.

TerriandMark’s post reads as a poorly written satire on a variety of topics discussed by sincere people looking for improvements in their lives now dominated by this awful disease. If I’m wrong about your story, I apologize; but I call BS on this post.

[TerriandMark in reply to Twoofus]

Towfus and Tommy,

I am sorry for my poor writting. I just got out of 6 days in hospital and shaky.

Thankyou for realizing we are very frightened and just trying to get well and figure our way thru a maze of my many, many issues....and now my husband's issues.

My venom fish issue and diseases were far more immediate potential for death from antibiotic resistant ocean critters. I am only a lady trying to live and now find help for my husband. Just before i wrote my plea for help, last week i was ambulanced 5 hours to the hospital for 6 days in a Las Vegas hospital. They brought in an Oncologist for my lung cancer, and she wants to review my Pulmonologists records for a second oppinion.

My Pulmomologist has told me one year and 6 months that my left lung cancer has encapsulated inside a granuloma.

I promised to send my records to the Oncologist. I dont need un-advised opinions on what healed my lungs. I am a coward and will nevet cut my lung out. I am still very sick from many issues, but my lung is fortunately not OUR issue. My writing is not our question

I merely delivered my story to ask if any one knows the best way to move forward for my deatly loved husband. DO ALTERNATIVES WORK ON PROSTATE OR IS THERE A SCIENTIFIC ALOPATHIC BEST ROUTE. ????

If this site is full of negative, uncaring people, just ask, snd i will sign off.

Again, please anyone who has real and positive help for new people on this site, seeking caring information to help help us to the best, wisest path you have all learned works best for Prostate cancer,

Watmly, Terri

[Hidden in reply to TerriandMark]

Don't sign off, we are here to help you. Just so you are aware, we have had a lot of people get on here with no intention other than to sell us on some bogus "alternative treatment" that is unproven. Many of us here are very sensitive about that, including me. I just had a friend die who was using alternative treatments so it's a hot-button issue with me. You are just seeing a reaction to that.

But we are more than willing to help you, just be advised that most of us here will offer help that is conventional, proven treatments and not alternatives that don't work. One or two anecdotal stories are not enough for proof. I will always tell people to look for trials involving many people when determining if something works.

If you can find out his Gleason Score, we can offer some more specific advice.

[TerriandMark in reply to Hidden]

Gregg57,

Thank you so much. I am learning what I had hoped, so I greatly appreciate everyone's kind advise. That was what I hoped to understand, should we go conventional or alternative. I have heard all of you say strongly...Conventional. My fear was that my own bizzar personal experience might incorrectly influence my husband's decisions.

This year, I also lost 3 lifelong dear friends to Prostate Cancer. One used alternatives and the other used conventional. They are not alive to wiestion so I fortunately found your site. Each family of my lost loved friends, blamed the treatment and saus they should hsve done the opposite treatment. So it is confusing. Adf tgat on top of my bizzar 3 years 6 month ordeals.... makes me seek answers from more experienced similar people.

I appreciate honesty, even if its not what i hoped to hear, or fits with my past experiences.

Thank you for the invitation to remain. I will try to learn your cultural dos and donts.

I can also see a,site where there is an invitation to a "wives" group. I havent figured out how to access it, but i am feeling better today after my hospital horror week.

Thank you. My husband and I are really appreciative and will go conventional. Now we just need to learn more and see which option is most life saving.

Warmly Terri

[Hidden in reply to TerriandMark]

No treatment is a guarantee of success. When choosing your treatment you are always taking a chance, but it's best to take the chance that has the best statistical odds of being successful. That's all we are trying to do.

The problem with alternatives is that there are few, if any studies done on large groups of people to prove their efficacy. So the best choices are treatments that have been proven in scientific studies and have a history of success over a large population of patients. That's the best anyone can do.

[TerriandMark in reply to Hidden]

Thank you. We will get Gleason score. That dounds like a starting point.

[Hidden in reply to TerriandMark]

Just curious, when was his biopsy done?

[RGD115]

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 2015 my whole world collapsed my wife put me on a Chinese medicine it helped but couldn’t cure the cancer l had PSA of 13.1 and a Gleason of 4+3 looked on internet for a very long time and decided to have proton therapy in Prague treatment was painless and was put on Zoladex for 18 months incontinence lasted about 10 days and now clear some slight blood clots being passed but professor said this is not unusual l still have to have a MRI scan but have never looked back before l needed toilet every 1-2 hours now 5-6 and sometimes 7 hours and l feel great

[TerriandMark in reply to RGD115]

Dearest RGD115, Yhank you so much gor you sincere information. I was just reading about Proton Therapy and it definately caught my attention. Yes, we ladies seem to wish to spare our big protective men from pain, willing to try alternatives, but i know we are not willing to help influence to something that could errod that small window of action time.

Also, thank you for telling me about gleason score. We arent aware yet about Marks but will ask his Doctor.

Are you located anywbere near

Nevada or California? Who did your Proton Therapy?

I am happy to hear you are ferling well and it soundz like foing well. Your wife must lobe you so much yo have a seeking heart, even for alternatives that those negative people condem me for seeking. We love our big men and just wsnt them never to hurt, or die.

Bless your heart for uour kindness.

Terri

[RGD115 in reply to TerriandMark]

Dear Terri and Mark l live in UK England l had my proton treatment in Prague in the Czech Republic in the town of Budinova by professor Kubes which you may find not as expensive as USA but the technology is still there the clinic does a blood test and aMRI scan then 5 or 15 fractions depends how bad the cancer is in the uk my consultant told me my volume of cancer was 90%and he wanted to cut out but we said no we want to look at other treatments which didn’t make him very happy but l am very glad l did as when in Prague there were about 4 other men having the same treatment and what they were telling me that they have friends in the uk who had treatment in uk and some of them will not leave their house because of their servere state of incontinence if you have you tube look it up proton therapy in Prague you will be impressed good luck for the future —- MR Kubes says we aim to cure not treat your cancer

[TerriandMark in reply to RGD115]

Thank yoou so much.

[RGD115 in reply to TerriandMark]

Terri and Mark l am 64 yrs old and when l went to the hospitals in uk l was so stressed out but in Prague it was like a walk in the park so relaxing and the clinic arrange for you to be picked up in a luxury taxi also it is very easy to get around the city even though l couldn’t speak there language by the way the clinic does does speak English

[j-o-h-n]

Google "proton therapy prostate"

Good Luck and Good Health.

j-o-h-n Thursday 03/01/2018 7:17 PM EST

[TerriandMark]

John,Thank you. I will. Terri

[Hazard]

Hi Terri, pls dont consider me to be rude or uncaring but I have tried alternative medicines and achieved nothing from them. Please stick with proven treatments.

2 PCa colleagues of mine are on a program championed by Australian woman Kristine Mathieson (From Cancer to Wellness). They claim that their PSA has gone down, allowing them to manage their cancer (but not cured) in a state of watchful waiting with no other treatment

I had prostate out in 2015, and salvage radiation in 2016. My PSA continued to climb and when it got to 2.5 in March 2017 my onco told me that I needed to go onto ADT. Not excited by this prospect I followed my friends onto the Cancer to Wellness Program.

6 weeks later in Apr 2017 my PSA jumped to 7.5 and I started ADT immediately. Maybe the program takes some time to kick in and in conjunction with ADT maybe it will show its worth.

Actually by Christmas 2017, PSA had reached 47. I started chemo (docetaxal) on 29 Dec. I have just had 4th shot today, and PSA is now 7.5. Let me reassure you that this decrease was NOT because of alternative therapy.

Some say tumeric kills cancer. I take it every day. Green tea is helpful for cancer. I drink it every day. My onco even told me to drink a glass of pomegranite juice each day. And I do.

So what did I get from these supplements and the cancer to wellness program? Nothing. PSA doubling time was 30 days before I started these alternative therapies, and steadfastly continued to double every 30 days after I started.

The only thing that works is docetaxal. It is derived from Yew tree so I consider it to be a natural treatment. I recommend it to anyone. Keep up the alternative approach (for some reason I stiill do) but please don't ignore convential treatment.

Good luck, after all you have already been through it sounds like you have hit another rough patch. But give up.

[TerriandMark in reply to Hazard]

Dear Hazard,

No i dont consider your honesty to be rude or uncaring. Thank you so warmly for sharing all of your hard earned wisdoms. This helps me. My frea was in not knoeing exactly ehat stopped my lung cancer, i did not want to incorrectly influence my precious husband. I will take your caring advise.

I dont know all the words yet, like ADT, nut sure Mark''s Doctor knows.

Do you have any experience with CyberKnife or Proton Therapy?

Thank you for your kind honesty. Honesty works great for me.

We wish your journey a safe outcome.