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Having gone thru a biopsy 8 months ago.being told i have prostrate cancer,my psa was 3.2.wife said do something.oncologist said need to lose 50 pds to do robotic removal.then i found "the truth about cancer,the world global scare".on u tube this,an incredible site. So i choose alternative treatment in tijuana,mexico at chipas hospital using the,gerson therapy. Webt for 3 weeks. Lost close to 38 pds.lowered my cholestrol,triglycerides,my blood pressure. When i saw my oncologist he was displeased that i went to mex.obvoiusly i was in great health,and go bacj in 8 mobths for another biopsy psa,count didnt nean anything to him. According to my work my psa is,under work guidelines anythibg under 4

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I haven't been to the site you mention, but I don't like the headline message -- that prostate cancer is just some world global scare. It is real. I have aggressive prostate cancer despite having a PSA of only 2.7. You've done well in losing weight. Don't be fooled by what seems like a benign PSA number. You should have CT and bone scans to see if the cancer has spread. There are other remedies besides surgical removal. Do your due diligence and research and be careful of alternative treatment. When caught early prostate cancer can be beaten. If it gets loose, that's another story.

"obvoiusly i was in great health".

Some serious illness have no obvious symptoms. For example, the first symptom of a heart problem can be death.

Congratulations on losing weight, and getting those numbers down.

The article in Wikipedia on the Gerson therapy reflects the common understanding. You may not need any treatment, in which case Gerson is as good as anything. However I think you should be a little more careful, as it is your life that is on the line. People do die of prostate cancer. The current "yellow line" for PSA is 1.5, not 4. Plus, as the previous post points out, a low PSA is not a guarantee of a healthy prostate. It may mean nothing more than that the encapsulation of the prostate has not yet been compromised by a growing cancer, nor have new disease blood vessels developed.

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Sisira

Reply No.1 contains excellent advice for you.

Most of the alternative medicine/treatments are backed by anecdotes only. Not proved with scientific research and data. Kind of snake oil and miracle cures!

Take the prostate cancer as a reality and try to adopt a scientific approach. Soon enough, learn a little bit about cancer biology and the risk factors involved in your specific case. And also various treatment options available.

Don't experiment with alternative treatments and miss the early opportunities you have to achieve a possible cure or a stable long period remission. Unwise decisions made in the early stages may cost your life.

I was diagnosed for very aggressive prostate cancer in March 2015 at the age of 68. Immediately but after serious deliberations I underwent surgery ( RP ) followed by equally aggressive adjuvant treatment - Radiation ( IMRT ) and Hormone Therapy ( ADT2 ). I am confident that I am holding the bull by its horns.

You have joined an excellent support group. They will not allow you to make mistakes! They will surely extend to you a very strong hand.

Sisira

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Lombardi24

Don't be fooled by a low number. if the number climbs regardless of it being below 3...the cancer is on the move. I was diagnosed in 2014 with a PSA of 2.12 yet my Gleason numbers were all 9s . They did a robotic prostatectomy...but it was too late. Post surgery a bone scan revealed mets on pelvic bones. I have burned through all the antihormone therapy...chemo (second round just started last week)...radiation...etc...and now cancer is resisting anyou antihormone treatments and PSA is climbing again. Don't be foolish with your life. Trust your doctors. Once the cancer grows beyond your prostate...game over. Then it's a waiting game. There is no cure. It will advance.

Sorry to say this but, your spelling and punctuation are all one needs to evaluate your conclusions.

Joe

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Joe - That may have some truth in it, but it also may not. We need to do a prospective study on spelling ability plotted against overall survival.

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mccartney_7

New member, somewhat odd posting. Spam? Generating interest/hope for an alternative treatment? I am suspicious of any post like this. Sorry.

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dirtfisher

I would find a Proton Radiation therapy center and get a second opinion from them. That is Proton Radiation, not Photon. Look up on line a center near you and talk with them.

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Mrkharn

I thought my number at around 4 was not bad news but I was wrong. My best friend of almost sixty years died in August and we both had the same disease (different stages). As the boy in the st. Jude's commercial says, "people do die of this". I congratulate you on getting treated, but western medicine, per se, is the normal best path. Everybody wishes the best outcome for you.

Mark

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GeoffNoLongerAS

You mention that you were diagnosed via biopsy which is the best and only way to really diagnose PCa. However you did not give the result of the biopsy. What is the Gleason score? The biopsy and Gleason score is a much better indicator of the aggressiveness of the cancer, not PSA.

In addition you have not given any previous PSAs. The PSA velocity can be an indicator of aggressiveness.

It is unclear to me from your post what the alternative treatment was meant to address. Does it address PCa? Was it to get you in better condition?

It does seem to me based on the (lack) of evidence I wonder if this post was meant to generate traffic to a web page.

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Dr_WHO

Please know that there are a lot of men here with advanced prostate cancer while having lowPSA. Unfortunately that was the case for me. In fact they have to follow my cancer with bone and CT scans because they have no faith in PSA.

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Lombardi24 in reply to Dr_WHO

Dr_WHO... Ditto

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I'm in the same boat -- PSA 2.7 at DX.

So sorry, you'll end up like my best friend who started with the truth about cancer site..... BTW.

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